[jsr-314-open] AJAX library in JSF 2.0

Dan Allen dan.j.allen at gmail.com
Sun Sep 13 00:42:49 EDT 2009


[added Ryan to cc]

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> This makes me worry that none of the major JSF UI component libraries will
>> be using the built-in AJAX library because it doesn't have enough features.
>>  Will JSF 2.1 complete the AJAX functional requirements of RichFaces and
>> IceFaces?
>>
>
> We will both advocate for vendors to use the built-in Ajax library and
> gather feedback as to where it is limited so that we can improve on it. Jim
> Driscoll has done a lot of work with the Ajax API and would likely be able
> to comment further.
>
>
>>
>> Can anyone comment on how the JSF 2.0 AJAX library compares to other major
>> Java web frameworks?  Is it on-par, ahead of, or behind other web
>> frameworks?
>>
>
> It is certainly more conservative simply because we don't want to dump in
> the kitchen sink and then regret it after the fact. However, I know that the
> Ajax interaction itself is very clean, simple and should be very
> straightforward for most developers to understand. Again, Jim's blog is
> likely the best resource to get a feel for how this Ajax library is used for
> you to judge for yourself.
>
>
>>
>> -----
>>
>> Another question I have is about hiding managed beans from views.  If I
>> were to build a JSF 2.0 application that lets users customize the screens
>> with themes/skins, I would not want them to be able to access any and every
>> scoped bean in the system.  To have this level of control I might need to
>> use a web framework that gives me more control such as Struts 2, because it
>> uses Freemarker and/or Velocity.
>>
>
> I'm really not sure I understand what you are getting at. Why does
> Freemarker or Velocity give you more control over bean access?
>
>
>>
>> Have you heard of anyone mixing JSF with Freemarker?
>>
>
> I talked to a developer at JBoss World that was interested in creating a
> module that would cater to this integration. But nothing concrete at this
> point. I can say that the whole idea of the VDL is to encourage other view
> languages to emerge.
>
> -Dan
>
> --
> Dan Allen
> Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action
> Registered Linux User #231597
>
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>



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