[jsr-314-open-mirror] [jsr-314-open] Enabling easier hotplugging

[Jason Lee]

Hey, Werner, Ed. :)  I've done a fair amount of work with JMX, though 
I'm no expert.  I use it indirectly on the GlassFish Admin Console, 
after a fashion, and Ryan and I did a little work with JMX extensions to 
Mojarra that died on the vine due to lack of time.  I'm still trying to 
get caught up from being out on vacation, but I'll try to find some time 
to read over your proposal and see if I have any thoughts regarding that 
and JMX, such as they may be. :)

On 3/25/10 5:41 AM, Werner Punz wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Ed Burns <edward.burns at oracle.com 
> <mailto:edward.burns at oracle.com>> wrote:
>
>     >>>>> On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:51:53 +0100, Werner Punz
>     <werner.punz at gmail.com <mailto:werner.punz at gmail.com>> said:
>
>     WP> Btw. my personal opinion regarding all this is that this should be
>     WP> solved in a special spec which frameworks can attach to.
>      After all
>     WP> the entire configuration change aspect is not only JSF
>     specific but
>     WP> goes way depper into every framework.
>
>     WP> But I guess someone has to do the first step before an
>     umbrella jsr
>     WP> spanning all JEE frameworks is opened :-)
>
>     Yes, that's certainly true.  In fact, there's a time honored tradition
>     of JSF being an important place where innovation enters the platform.
>
>     This is a very thorough proposal, Werner.  Thanks for preparing it.
>
>     I'd like to see this API done in terms of existing APIS, such as the
>     java.lang.management MBeans [1].  Is it possible we can use JMX rather
>     than introducing a new API?
>
>     Ed
>
>     [1]
>     http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/management/overview.html#mbeans
>
> I assume so, I just had a quick look at it, it sounds very sane to use 
> it, since
> it is part of the JDK since 5 so we are save to be able to run it in 
> any context.
> Secondly it deals with configuration singletons anyway, and
>
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/javax/management/Descriptor.html
> seems to be able to handle get,insert,delete,update usecases.
>
>
> But I am by far no expert in that part of the java API (I always 
> skipped it for not having
> ever used it in my life, I just knew it existed)
>
> So can anyone with more insight can elaborate if we can reuse it?
>
>
>
> Werner
>
>
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