[rules-users] confused on when to call fireAllRules

[Charles Binford]

Hi,  I'm trying to add some functionality to my 4.0.7 based project and 
am realizing I don't understand some basics as well as I thought I did.  
Until now, I've been using a very simple model:  create session, insert 
facts, fire rules, destroy session.  My new functionality needs to use a 
long lived session.  I also may find the duration feature useful so I 
searched through the examples and found the TroubleTicketExample.  Now 
what has be confused is that example shows rules firing AFTER control 
has been returned from the fireAllRules() call.  I tried to create 
something similar - call fireAllRules, then call session.update(han, 
obj) - but nothing happens.  If I call fireAllRules again (after the 
update) then my rule fires as expected.    My test didn't use any 
duration statement.  Is that the magic in the TroubleTicketExample?  If 
so, then how does one have a clue as to whether one needs to call 
fireAllRules after an update or not (i.e. no way to tell if a duration 
rule is keeping it running)?  Obviously I'm missing some basic 
understanding here.  Please enlighten me.

Thanks,
Charles Binford