[rules-users] Expert Systems and Functional programming?

Fri Mar 15 16:47:38 EDT 2013

I usually try to attend RuleML meet ups and Intellifest (ex October Rules
Fest) there you meet all the Expert System community.
Cheers

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Grant Rettke <grettke at acm.org> wrote:

> Who are the primary researchers of expert-systems today?
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Mark Proctor <mproctor at codehaus.org>
> wrote:
> > Actually Pamela is one of the papers I've been trying to track down,
> can't get it on the internet any more. As I first saw it referenced in
> "Production matching for large learning systems".
> >
> > You don't by chance have the paper still?
> > Barachini, F. (1991) The evolution of PAMELA. Expert Systems, 8(2):87-98
> >
> > I'm building up a collection of relevant research papers, over at
> mendelay. That is one of my missing papers, that I've been unable to track:
> > http://www.mendeley.com/groups/2918061/rule-systems/papers/
> >
> > Mark
> > On 12 Mar 2013, at 18:28, Wolfgang Laun <wolfgang.laun at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Mark,
> >>
> >> no, the system I'm talking about is PAMELA, developed here in Vienna.
> >> You may find references to papers citing PAMELA, authored by
> >> F.Barachini and N.Theuretzbacher (one is referenced in the thesis you
> >> quoted, see [13]), but I doubt that you'l find one of the papers on
> >> the web. It was pre-internet days way back then :-)
> >>
> >> If you could produce an RBS ranking based on rules fired in
> >> production, I think that PAMELA would be in an excellent position.
> >> There's a three-digit number of installations by now, but they're
> >> running 24/7.
> >>
> >> -W
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/03/2013, Mark Proctor <mproctor at codehaus.org> wrote:
> >>> OPS83?
> >>>
> http://repository.cmu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2478&context=compsci
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> or YES/L1? (seems information on this is out of print and not online
> >>> either)
> >>> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00070YQSU/ref=r_soa_w_d
> >>> "YES/L1: Integrating expert systems technology with traditional
> programming
> >>> languages (Research Report RC. International Business Machines Inc.
> Research
> >>> Division)"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I definitely find linq interesting, as it's straight out of the
> research
> >>> pages from these projects - I wonder if the linq/database propel know
> about
> >>> these... The first time I saw it was in this paper "procedural match
> augments
> >>> data-driven match"
> >>> http://www.aaai.org/Papers/AAAI/1986/AAAI86-037.pdf
> >>>
> >>> They move the "lhs" logic into the consequence block, using the actual
> >>> "when" part as a simple goal trigger - allowing the 'lhs' to be used
> >>> procedurally, like linq. This allows them to control when a rule is
> >>> evaluated and that it's evaluation is atomic, and can have cleanup work
> >>> done.
> >>>
> >>> Mark
> >>>
> >>> On 12 Mar 2013, at 06:04, Wolfgang Laun <wolfgang.laun at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Indeed, this thesis mentions a few features of the system I was
> >>>> talking about :-)
> >>>> ([13])
> >>>> -W
> >>>>
> >>>> On 11/03/2013, Mark Proctor <mproctor at codehaus.org> wrote:
> >>>>> There were a number of research efforts that looked at combining
> >>>>> procedural
> >>>>> and rule base programming.
> >>>>> This one is quite interesting:
> >>>>> Combining Rule-Based and Procedural Programming in the XC and XE
> >>>>> Programming
> >>>>> Lanaugages
> >>>>>
> http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.9.1106&rep=rep1&type=pdf
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mark
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 11 Mar 2013, at 18:03, Wolfgang Laun <wolfgang.laun at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 11 March 2013 16:19, Mark Proctor <mproctor at codehaus.org> wrote:
> >>>>>> So thinking really long term here. Can we build a "java layer" that
> >>>>>> provide all the rule functionality we need - but fit ontop of the
> java
> >>>>>> language neatly. We'd probably need to allow "rule" keyword and
> have it
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>> Classes, at the method level. All class members and methods would be
> >>>>>> available to the rules in that class.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There is this production rule system where you can write your rules
> >>>>>> embedded in compiling units, and alongside the legacy program
> units, of
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>> procedural, modular, strongly type HLL, and where you use
> expressions
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>> the language's own syntax in constraints...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We've been using it ever since 1986. Rabbi Akiva was right, wasn't
> he
> >>>>>> ;-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -W
> >>>>>>
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