I have few questions about sample-portal and how the services are started. What concerns me the most is that currently services seems to be started separately for each container. This means that we end up with two HibernateServices and OrganizationService instances. Obviously it may be desired to have separate identity realm per container but I believe that there may be some situations in which single OrganizationService would also be expected. So for the more specific questions: 1) Is it possible to have both containers use same service instances? Some configuration way to mark services as shared and bootstrapped only once. 2) I'm a bit confused by the way the service configuration is separated. AFAIK one benefit of the separate container config is to push configuration out of gatein.ear. That way things can be configured in sample-portal.ear/sample-portal.war. However most of services configuration currently remain in gatein.ear/portal.war/WEB-INF/conf and rely on the ${container.name.suffix} replaced by the kernel. One example is HibernateService which creates separate DB instances this way. Now if I want to plug LDAP the natural way is to provide several xml files with names following ${container.name.suffix} pattern. But those are defined in config remaining in gatein.ear - then portal admin need to mess with config in both ears. Wouldn't it make sense to duplicate more service configuration in sample-portal.ear? My use case is PicketLink IDM integration with LDAP enabled. As it is natural to provide separate LDAP DNs for different portal containers I can either put additional config file in sample-portal.war or have two different ones in gatein.ear/portal.war. So it is either configuring sample-portal.war inside gatein.ear/portal.war or having part of identity config in portal.war and part in sample-portal.war... I think it would make sense to duplicate at least HibernateService and OrganizationService config in both war files. 3) Current behavior is to replace the ${container.name.suffix} by: - empty string in tomcat deployment - "_portal" and "_sample-portal" in jboss deployment It works fine when the suffix is used to create the HSQLDB file name on the fly but when used to refer to different configuration files it means that there need to be 3 xml files.. where 2 are duplicated ones to serve main portal container in tomcat and jboss. Could we have ${container.name.suffix} be replaced by "portal" in both jboss and tomcat? Also is there any other property that could be used as a prefix? Like to have the choice between "portal_", "portal" and "_portal" for flexibility in nice config files naming. Bolek. _______________________________________________ gatein-dev mailing list gatein-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/gatein-dev

Yes I have it. I have looked briefly once more at it and I can't find any direct answer to my question nr. 3) and only indirect ones to other questions. However I assume following answers then: 1) Not possible?

2) Following the best practices suggested in the docs I should duplicate at least the OrganizationService config file to sample-portal to be able to provide separate LDAP settings in a more clean way. Any objections for this? If I understand correctly kernel will be smart enough to pick org service defined from sample-portal.war/WEB-INF/conf/configuration.xml? 3) Not possible? This is painful - maybe not anymore if I do the 2) but.... To quote the doc this is suggested tip under "How to avoid duplicating configuration files just to rename a simple value?". In my case this is the xml config file name that is passed in another config file as a service parameter. To use it to pass different files depending on the deployed container I need to handle both "" and "_portal" values for the default one depending on the deployment env.... Am I right? On Jan 7, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Nicolas Filotto wrote: > Did you get and read the documentation about the extensions in GateIn? > > It seems that the doc has been sent to Thomas, I don't know if he shares it with you > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Boleslaw Dawidowicz < boleslaw.dawidowicz(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > I have few questions about sample-portal and how the services are started. What concerns me the most is that currently services seems to be started separately for each container. This means that we end up with two HibernateServices and OrganizationService instances. Obviously it may be desired to have separate identity realm per container but I believe that there may be some situations in which single OrganizationService would also be expected. So for the more specific questions: > > 1) Is it possible to have both containers use same service instances? Some configuration way to mark services as shared and bootstrapped only once. > > 2) I'm a bit confused by the way the service configuration is separated. AFAIK one benefit of the separate container config is to push configuration out of gatein.ear. That way things can be configured in sample-portal.ear/sample-portal.war. However most of services configuration currently remain in gatein.ear/portal.war/WEB-INF/conf and rely on the ${container.name.suffix} replaced by the kernel. One example is HibernateService which creates separate DB instances this way. Now if I want to plug LDAP the natural way is to provide several xml files with names following ${container.name.suffix} pattern. But those are defined in config remaining in gatein.ear - then portal admin need to mess with config in both ears. Wouldn't it make sense to duplicate more service configuration in sample-portal.ear? > > My use case is PicketLink IDM integration with LDAP enabled. As it is natural to provide separate LDAP DNs for different portal containers I can either put additional config file in sample-portal.war or have two different ones in gatein.ear/portal.war. So it is either configuring sample-portal.war inside gatein.ear/portal.war or having part of identity config in portal.war and part in sample-portal.war... I think it would make sense to duplicate at least HibernateService and OrganizationService config in both war files. > > 3) Current behavior is to replace the ${container.name.suffix} by: > > - empty string in tomcat deployment > - "_portal" and "_sample-portal" in jboss deployment > > It works fine when the suffix is used to create the HSQLDB file name on the fly but when used to refer to different configuration files it means that there need to be 3 xml files.. where 2 are duplicated ones to serve main portal container in tomcat and jboss. Could we have ${container.name.suffix} be replaced by "portal" in both jboss and tomcat? Also is there any other property that could be used as a prefix? Like to have the choice between "portal_", "portal" and "_portal" for flexibility in nice config files naming. > > Bolek. > _______________________________________________ > gatein-dev mailing list > gatein-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/gatein-dev > > > > -- > Nicolas Filotto > JCR Product Manager > Project Manager > eXo Platform SAS > nicolas.filotto(a)exoplatform.com > +33 (0)6 31 32 92 19 _______________________________________________ gatein-dev mailing list gatein-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/gatein-dev

Yes I have it. I have looked briefly once more at it and I can't find any direct answer to my question nr. 3) and only indirect ones to other questions. However I assume following answers then: 1) Not possible?

2) Following the best practices suggested in the docs I should duplicate at least the OrganizationService config file to sample-portal to be able to provide separate LDAP settings in a more clean way. Any objections for this? If I understand correctly kernel will be smart enough to pick org service defined from sample-portal.war/WEB-INF/conf/configuration.xml?

3) Not possible? This is painful - maybe not anymore if I do the 2) but.... To quote the doc this is suggested tip under "How to avoid duplicating configuration files just to rename a simple value?". In my case this is the xml config file name that is passed in another config file as a service parameter. To use it to pass different files depending on the deployed container I need to handle both "" and "_portal" values for the default one depending on the deployment env.... Am I right?

On Jan 7, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Nicolas Filotto wrote: > Did you get and read the documentation about the extensions in GateIn? > > It seems that the doc has been sent to Thomas, I don't know if he shares it with you > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Boleslaw Dawidowicz < boleslaw.dawidowicz(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > I have few questions about sample-portal and how the services are started. What concerns me the most is that currently services seems to be started separately for each container. This means that we end up with two HibernateServices and OrganizationService instances. Obviously it may be desired to have separate identity realm per container but I believe that there may be some situations in which single OrganizationService would also be expected. So for the more specific questions: > > 1) Is it possible to have both containers use same service instances? Some configuration way to mark services as shared and bootstrapped only once. > > 2) I'm a bit confused by the way the service configuration is separated. AFAIK one benefit of the separate container config is to push configuration out of gatein.ear. That way things can be configured in sample-portal.ear/sample-portal.war. However most of services configuration currently remain in gatein.ear/portal.war/WEB-INF/conf and rely on the ${container.name.suffix} replaced by the kernel. One example is HibernateService which creates separate DB instances this way. Now if I want to plug LDAP the natural way is to provide several xml files with names following ${container.name.suffix} pattern. But those are defined in config remaining in gatein.ear - then portal admin need to mess with config in both ears. Wouldn't it make sense to duplicate more service configuration in sample-portal.ear? > > My use case is PicketLink IDM integration with LDAP enabled. As it is natural to provide separate LDAP DNs for different portal containers I can either put additional config file in sample-portal.war or have two different ones in gatein.ear/portal.war. So it is either configuring sample-portal.war inside gatein.ear/portal.war or having part of identity config in portal.war and part in sample-portal.war... I think it would make sense to duplicate at least HibernateService and OrganizationService config in both war files. > > 3) Current behavior is to replace the ${container.name.suffix} by: > > - empty string in tomcat deployment > - "_portal" and "_sample-portal" in jboss deployment > > It works fine when the suffix is used to create the HSQLDB file name on the fly but when used to refer to different configuration files it means that there need to be 3 xml files.. where 2 are duplicated ones to serve main portal container in tomcat and jboss. Could we have ${container.name.suffix} be replaced by "portal" in both jboss and tomcat? Also is there any other property that could be used as a prefix? Like to have the choice between "portal_", "portal" and "_portal" for flexibility in nice config files naming. > > Bolek. > _______________________________________________ > gatein-dev mailing list > gatein-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/gatein-dev > > > > -- > Nicolas Filotto > JCR Product Manager > Project Manager > eXo Platform SAS > nicolas.filotto(a)exoplatform.com > +33 (0)6 31 32 92 19