[forge-dev] Data access logic used by scaffold code

[Richard Kennard]

"My personal viewpoint, which I recognize may have no relevance..."

And this humility, right here, is why I love Dan Allen :)

On 24/01/2012 5:50 PM, Dan Allen wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 01:27, Jason Porter <lightguard.jp at gmail.com <mailto:lightguard.jp at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hey Dan, you're about an hour late to the party :) we've been discussing and Eichard has given me some info and code to look at and read through.
>
>
> Cool. I just wanted to make sure I made the discussion public.
>
>
>     As for the non dep idea, I can certainly understand where Lincoln and Pete are coming from. I do wonder though if that would preclude us from
>     creating a CDI extension for rolling our own simple CRUD framework perhaps with an spi for future expansion. That be a bit much though. At any rate I
>     need to go through the stuff Richard has sent me and give some feedback.
>
>
> First, I want to acknowledge that Richard is working with requirements that specify no deps. Being reminded of that, the design in the scaffolding makes 
> sense. So I don't mean to question your choice in working within that requirement.
>
> My personal viewpoint, which I recognize may have no relevance, is that this is an extreme requirement. So I'm challenging the requirement, not the 
> implementation :)
>
> I think the goal to make a pure Java EE application is absurd. If anything, it reveals the shortcomings and verbosity in Java EE 6 more than it shows how 
> great it is. I get that we don't want to inflate the project with libraries, but to say that you can't have a single JAR file extra from Java EE, well, I 
> just don't buy it.
>
> I *suppose* we can have multiple providers. Either way, as Richard said, Java EE 6 needs a decent CRUD and Query framework and whether it goes into the 
> default Forge scaffolding or not, 99% of developers are going to want to use it if it's available.
>
> -Dan
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