[hibernate-dev] want to join hibernate development community

Elhanan Maayan elh.mailgate at gmail.com
Tue Apr 14 11:14:21 EDT 2009

i meant to say you need m2eclipse if you want to shorten the procedure as
much as possible, instead of using command line windows. personally i like
consolidating all my tools as much as possible into one single IDE, so if
i'll use maven, i'd wanna use it inside eclipse without much hassle.

i never thought hibernate was simple, my problem is that i don't see how
anyone outside jboss personal can actually create fixes (patches or
commits) without internal overview of hibernate. and jumping head first is
actually what a new developer in jboss would need to do, even if he did had
prior usage of hibernate. so either there  are white papers kept in jboss
for their use only , or the information is pass down orally by a senior

to give an example, we have a developer with a 7 year experience in java
j2ee, working on an undocumented homegrown framework with no internal
overview documentation, and only oral info passed from previous developer,
and that's not nearly enough as fixes usually break something else.

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Chris Bredesen <cbredesen at redhat.com>wrote:

> Some observations on this thread:
> 1. You do not need m2eclipse.  /trunk and /Branch_3_3 both use Maven 2 and
> will build straight away with "mvn compile".
> 2. You can generate Eclipse or IDEA project files from the command line in
> the standard Maven way (mvn eclipse:eclipse or mvn idea:idea) and then
> import the projects.  I understand that IDEA reads Maven metadata natively
> but I cannot speak to that.
> 3. Only committers are allowed to ... commit.  This is what the
> svn.jboss.org server is for.  anonsvn.jboss.org is a replica with
> read-only privileges.  Use this for now.  You are free to open JIRA tickets
> and attach patch files which will be reviewed by Hibernate committers and
> possibly committed in a future release.
> 4. Yes, Hibernate is complicated.  It is not a trivial project to jump into
> head-first.  So please understand that there are many ways to contribute:
>  * Helping on the forums
>  * Hanging around in IRC to participate/answer questions
>  * Improving the wiki
>  * Filing JIRA issues for bugs or attaching test cases that are required
> Happy Hibernating,
> Chris
> joy deep wrote:
>>  Thanks soo much , I was by the side of the ocean no idea about depth .
>> Are only JBoss people allowed to make changes !!!
>> Thanks and Regards
>> Joydeep Bhattacharjee
>> --- On *Tue, 14/4/09, Elhanan Maayan /<elh.mailgate at gmail.com>/* wrote:
>>    From: Elhanan Maayan <elh.mailgate at gmail.com>
>>    Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] want to join hibernate development
>>    community
>>    To: "joy deep" <bha_joy at yahoo.co.in>
>>    Cc: "Peter Harrison" <peter.harrison at methodmaker.co.nz>,
>>    hibernate-dev at lists.jboss.org
>>    Date: Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 6:38 PM
>>    i've started a small blog http://osventure.wordpress.com/ about my
>>    experiences with open source, documenting my attempts.
>>        please note that you will need m2eclipse plugin to download the
>>    code, as the svn repo is not in eclipse project.
>>    you will then need to change your .settings.xml file for maven in
>>    ~/m2 direcotry  for jboss plugins
>>        also after you downloaded the code you will encounter huge amount
>> of
>>    compiler errors  you will need to the following:
>>        1. run mvn install on the pom parent - to generate some antlr files
>>    that were not generated during the initial load
>>    2. change hibernate-core project compiler settings to :
>>       generated .class file compatibility to 1.4,       source
>> compatibility : 1.4
>>    3. on hibernate-common-annotations project change the compiler
>>    error/warnings , turn the forbidden reference (access rules) to
>>    warning instead of error.
>>        good luck getting your feet, personally i feel somewhat drowning
>>    when i'm trying to figure out this bug :
>>    http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH-3856
>>        personally i have no idea how anyone outside jboss can even begin
>> to
>>    start modify the code without some white papers or explanation on
>>    the internal structure of hibernate.
>>    On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:05 AM, joy deep <bha_joy at yahoo.co.in
>>    </mc/compose?to=bha_joy at yahoo.co.in>> wrote:
>>        Hi,
>>            Is there any SVN repository from where I can download the
>>        source codes, and set up my project in eclipse .Can you also
>>        give the Bugzilla link for hibernate.I want to get my feet wet
>>        with the code soon . Thanks for replying.
>>        Thanks and Regards
>>        Joydeep Bhattacharjee
>>        --- On *Tue, 14/4/09, Peter Harrison
>>        /<peter.harrison at methodmaker.co.nz
>>        </mc/compose?to=peter.harrison at methodmaker.co.nz>>/* wrote:
>>            From: Peter Harrison <peter.harrison at methodmaker.co.nz
>>            </mc/compose?to=peter.harrison at methodmaker.co.nz>>
>>            Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] want to join hibernate
>>            development community
>>            To: bha_joy at yahoo.co.in </mc/compose?to=bha_joy at yahoo.co.in>
>>            Date: Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 5:02 AM
>>            The ideal way to get involved is to download the source and
>>            get familiar with it first - if you have not already. I am
>>            here because I made some modifications to hibernate for my
>>            own project and want to contribute back. The best way to
>>            start is to look at existing bug reports, write a patch or
>>            two and attach them to the ticket. Of course, I'm in a
>>            similar boat as you, in that I'm not an active committer
>>            right now. I'm personally looking at issues which affect me
>>            - aka I don't want to be committing code for things that I
>>            am not having practical use for.
>>            2009/4/12 <bha_joy at yahoo.co.in
>>            <http://mc/compose?to=bha_joy@yahoo.co.in>>
>>                Hi All,
>>                      I am new to hibernate development community though
>>                I have been using the the product for some time now , I
>>                would like to be a part of this wonderful product how
>>                can I get on with it .
>>                Any help in this regard will be highly appreciated.
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