[hibernate-dev] Why Hibernate 4.2.x should receive more updates

Steve Ebersole steve at hibernate.org
Mon Apr 7 11:47:26 EDT 2014


I simply do not consider Spring a valid reason to keep older Hibernate
release families active.  So to say its "not on the Spring team" and imply
it is all Hibernate's problem is a bit misleading.  Early in
Spring/Hibernate integration they used to work with us to flesh out
integration points.  Of course they would have, they were looking for
traction as a new project and wanted to ride on Hibernate's popularity.
 Since then, not only have they stopped reaching out to us, but in a few
cases were I reached out to them and offered suggestions on how to do
certain integrations I was ignored.  So yes, in some ways it is on them.

To me, if anything, a far more compelling reason would be JPA 2.0 (4.2)
versus JPA 2.1 (4.3) support.

However, you need to understand that this is an open source project.  We
simply do not have the man power that commercial offerings do.  Us being
able to keep up development and testing of all these "dead" branches is
simply not feasible.


On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 7:34 AM, Marc Schipperheyn
<m.schipperheyn at gmail.com>wrote:

> Just wanted to outline some reasons for keeping the Hibernate 4.2.x release
> train alive.
>
> I would love to update today to 4.3.x. But I'm on Spring 3.x and the
> Hibernate 4.3.x line only made it into Spring 4.x. So everybody using
> Spring 3.x will be stuck on 4.2.x. I would say that's prob just about
> everybody using Spring. Spring 4 was only recently released.
>
> IMHO this is not on the Spring team but on the fact that a significant
> refactoring was executed post Hibernate 4.0.x. The corresponding Spring
> JIRA is here SPR-10839 <https://jira.spring.io/browse/SPR-10839>
> One idea would be to release an adapter that allows Hibernate to be used
> with Spring 3.x. I'll be upgrading to Spring 4 soon, so I only care fore
> convenience sake, but I control my IT infra. If you guys want the latest
> and greatest Hibernate on all Spring installs this year, you might consider
> helping that along a little.
>
> Cheers,
> Marc
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