[hibernate-dev] Everyone: Need volunteers for mentoring GSOC

[Gunnar Morling]

Hi,

2016-03-06 14:03 GMT+01:00 Sanne Grinovero <sanne at hibernate.org>:
> On 5 March 2016 at 19:56, Gunnar Morling <gunnar at hibernate.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've added a proposal for "Hibernate Search: JSR 352 batch job for
>> re-indexing entities":
>
> Looks great!
> A couple more thoughts about this one:
>  - should we suggest testing with different 2lc patterns, or keep it
> more open to suggest exploring additional ideas to push the indexing
> times down?

I'd say let's leave it a bit more open, so students can add their own ideas.

That said, what specifically do you have in mind here? I can see how
the 2nd level cache comes into play when re-indexing several entities
(e.g. A in its own index and another time via an @IndexedEmbedded
association B.A). Is this what you mean?

I've shared a Google doc for this with you, please feel free to add
any thoughts in addition to what's in the public proposal.

>  - do we need to clarify that we expect people to load such entities
> through their (existing) Hibernate mappings?

I don't think that's necessary right now. We can clarify these sorts
of things if applicants show up.

>
> I can see how somebody might think he can do better by hand-rolling
> SQL, but the goal should be to have the framework figure out the
> optimal way without users having to maintain such SQL.. so this might
> optionally produce some more general purpose optimisations to
> Hibernate ORM's fetch strategy implementations.
>
> Most importantly: you're mentoring this one?

Yes, I will, provided we find a student with high aspiration :)

>
> Thanks,
> Sanne
>
>>
>> https://developer.jboss.org/wiki/JBossCommunityGoogleSummerOfCode2016Ideas#jive_content_id_Hibernate_Search_JSR_352_batch_job_for_reindexing_entities
>>
>> Any feedback welcome!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --Gunnar
>>
>>
>>
>> 2016-03-03 12:41 GMT+01:00 Gunnar Morling <gunnar at hibernate.org>:
>>> Ahaha, ok. I took previous contribution as a given for active
>>> participants on hibernate-dev and people considering to mentor ;)
>>> Sorry I misread.
>>>
>>> 2016-03-03 12:38 GMT+01:00 Sanne Grinovero <sanne at hibernate.org>:
>>>> I asked for mentors, not students.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 11:05 Gunnar Morling, <gunnar at hibernate.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll write up the proposal for the batch job for mass indexing and
>>>>> submit it to
>>>>> https://developer.jboss.org/wiki/JBossCommunityGoogleSummerOfCode2016Ideas.
>>>>>
>>>>> > It would need to be someone who's regularly contributing already...
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally I don't think that's needed and also it's not in the spirit of
>>>>> GSoC.
>>>>>
>>>>> The program is meant to bring students *into* OSS development. Of
>>>>> course having experience in that area doesn't harm, but it's no
>>>>> requirement. Much more important is the general attitude (willingness
>>>>> to learn etc.) as well as general programming knowledge.
>>>>>
>>>>> Student's applications start on March 14th, so whatever we feel like
>>>>> going for, should be in that proposal list by then.
>>>>>
>>>>> --Gunnar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2016-03-01 18:27 GMT+01:00 Sanne Grinovero <sanne at hibernate.org>:
>>>>> > Hi all,
>>>>> > earlier today in our IRC meeting [1] we discussed ideas for Google
>>>>> > Summer of Code;
>>>>> > mostly related Hibernate Search but not only:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Quoting the previous summary by Gunnar:
>>>>> >   1 - Java Batch API job for HSEARCH mass indexing
>>>>> >   2 - Solr backend
>>>>> >   3 - HSEARCH support for JHipster
>>>>> >   4 - HSEARCH support for Spring Data
>>>>> >   5 - Async API for ORM/OGM/HSEARCH
>>>>> > [It's not a closed list, you can also propose additional ideas.]
>>>>> >
>>>>> > is anyone on this mailing list interested enough on these subjects to
>>>>> > volunteer mentoring?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I mentored two students last year and we had nice results, but I won't
>>>>> > be able to mentor this summer.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > It would need to be someone who's regularly contributing already, and
>>>>> > ideally someone familiar with the technology we're integrating with:
>>>>> > most of the above proposals are about integrating with some other
>>>>> > standard or framework.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > For example I wouldn't mentor on JHipster as all I know about it is
>>>>> > what I've seen in a couple of presentations... but if the student is
>>>>> > not too junior he can also be tasked with reaching out to "the other"
>>>>> > community to get guidance.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > But for that I'd want us to be able to make some introductions at
>>>>> > least, to have some kind of "co-mentor" volunteered by the other
>>>>> > community/project.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>> > Sanne
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 1 -
>>>>> > http://transcripts.jboss.org/meeting/irc.freenode.org/hibernate-dev/2016/hibernate-dev.2016-03-01-14.04.html
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