[hibernate-dev] Chat migration - D minus 115 until the death of HipChat

[Yoann Rodiere]

Hi,

TL;DR: please vote here if you don't want to end up having to use a chat
tool you don't like: https://doodle.com/poll/h6scc9bsh6a4ymre

HipChat Cloud will stop working on February 15th, 2019 [1]. We need to
choose an alternative before we have our back against the wall, so I'll try
to resurrect the conversation.

As a reminder, Stride is no longer an option: Atlassian cancelled the
project, and encourages users to migrate to Slack.

The discussed options so far were:

   - *Moving back to IRC*. Aye: ?; nay: ?
   Pros: simple as hell.
   Cons: basic as hell; we won't keep the chat history.
   - *Migrating to Slack* [6], as suggested by Atlassian [2]. Aye:
   Christian B; Nay: ?
   Pros: we will keep the chat history (I think).
   Cons: not open-source; desktop client consumes a lot of resources.
   - *Migrating to Zulip* [3]. Aye: Emmanuel, Yoann. Nay: Guillaume (kind
   of).
   Pros: Advanced conversation management thanks to the "topics" feature.
   Cons: Complex to use because of the "topics" feature; we won't keep the
   chat history (1).
   - *Migrating to Gitter* [5] (we'll create different rooms, probably).
   Aye: ?, Nay: ?
   Pros: Users seem to actually go there, so we could have our "live
   support" rooms next to our "internal discussion" rooms.
   Cons: not open-source; we won't keep the chat history (1).

I created a poll based on the discussion we had on the thread
"[hibernate-dev] Stride". I think everyone had the time to suggest another
option.

Please vote here and now, or remain silent forever ;):
https://doodle.com/poll/h6scc9bsh6a4ymre

I'd suggest the following rules: if there's a single clear winner (a
platform that everyone would be happy with), we'll pick that one. If there
are multiple clear winners, whoever does the migration work will pick
what's easier to set up (taking into account the various integrations).
Otherwise, back to discussing it on this thread...

(1) There seems to be some work in progress on a migration tool from
HipChat to Zulip, but it doesn't seem to be ready yet [4]

[1]
https://www.atlassian.com/partnerships/slack/faq#faq-da2b66a1-53d3-4c4e-a405-467d961336f7
[2] https://www.atlassian.com/partnerships/slack/migration
[3] https://hibernate.zulipchat.com/
[4] https://github.com/zulip/zulip/issues/10647
[5] https://gitter.im/hibernate/hibernate-orm
[6] https://slackdemo.com/

Yoann Rodière
Hibernate NoORM Team
yoann at hibernate.org