[jbossdeveloper] http://jboss.org/jdf/stack/plugin-jdf/ looks weird...

Fri Aug 1 11:39:28 EDT 2014

On 08/01/2014 11:27 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>
> Em 8/1/14, 12:24, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>
>> On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>
>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>> Wasn't the quickstart table on 
>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ the one that 
>>>> included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss ON, and other 
>>>> product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we added the 'Target 
>>>> Product' metadata  to the README files?
>>> Yes
>>>>
>>>> Aren't other product teams also depending on that page with the 
>>>> table of quickstarts?
>>> I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every product to 
>>> www.jboss.org/developer-material/"jdf-arrival" should be valid.
>>
>> Are you saying that 
>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will redirect to 
>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/?
>> And that page will contain the same contents that were on the 
>> original site?
>> If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there? ;-)
>
> Nope! I said that http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com should redirect to an 
> page (that needs to be created) at http://www.jboss.org that 
> *explains* that JDF (with all Quickstarts, BOMs, Tutorials,etc) was 
> moved to JBoss Developer materials and provide a button (or automatic 
> redirect in x seconds) to http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials
>
> Does everybody agrees with this approach ?

I agree we need a redirect. But if the resulting page does not contain 
the table of quickstarts as described in the README files, I will get 
bug reports from QA. :-(

>>>>
>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the jdf-site at openshift redirect.
>>>>> But we can also but www.jboss.org/jdf to redirect to it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu:
>>>>>> :/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at
>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf (or any other jboss.org 
>>>>>> URL) with
>>>>>> a brief text similar to:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "JDF site was retired and all its content was moved to JBoss 
>>>>>> Developer
>>>>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or click on the button
>>>>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, Archetypes, Tutorials,
>>>>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>> The only problem is that the page does not match what the text 
>>>>>>> says.
>>>>>>> The text in the README says:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The list of all currently available quickstarts can be found here:
>>>>>>> <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>. The table
>>>>>>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies it demonstrates, 
>>>>>>> gives a
>>>>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and the level of experience
>>>>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed information about a
>>>>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That page does not have a table with all the details.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper redirect to
>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu:
>>>>>>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we 
>>>>>>>>> referenced
>>>>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We can put redirects in place.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit when this change was made; It was 
>>>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013.
>>>>>>>>>>       • This was the pull:
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>       • This was the commit:
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a36437fec34346160bd15a0ece07c338 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I can remove the link from the community quickstarts, but not 
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There were JIRAs
>>>>>>>>>>> related
>>>>>>>>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a download button:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228
>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-(
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both point to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> jdf-site
>>>>>>>>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" URL for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> former
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>     site
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda <sgilda at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it moved 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking shipping 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> product
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at least 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/jboss-eap-6.3.0.CR1-quickstarts.zip 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it online here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-develop/README.md#available-quickstarts 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> link that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken links?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts anymore. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search/result page.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. Unfortunately, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's too 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> late to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look really 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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