[jbossdeveloper] http://jboss.org/jdf/stack/plugin-jdf/ looks weird...

Tue Aug 5 09:03:54 EDT 2014

We should fire a Jira for these.

Em 8/5/14, 9:55, Pete Muir escreveu:
> On 5 Aug 2014, at 13:53, Rafael Benevides <benevides at redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> Em 8/5/14, 8:20, Pete Muir escreveu:
>>> 1) Create the redirect from site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started to http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/#!formats=jbossdeveloper_quickstart&layout=list-view - note that the layout=list-view doesn’t work atm, but will start to work
>> Shouldn't we redirect the whole site-jdf ?
> These were the only ones that the docs seemed to reference. I don’t believe site-jdf shows up on google. So I don’t see a strong need.
Google has also results for http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/about/contributing/
>
>>> 2) Don’t update the read me until you see what the list-view looks like. If we think then that the read me needs an update, do it then
>>> 3) If we want to create a page to explain the changes, this should be done at the SOURCE side (site-jdf) NOT the destination side.
>> This would increase the history of project/product
> What does this mean?
During the Loconia F2F meeting we talked a lot about the products having 
a history... It's this kind of history that I were talking about.
People should know from Red Hat that JDF become now JBoss Developer 
Materials. I know that it's implicit, but I would like to make it explicit.
>
>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 19:06, Sande Gilda <sgilda at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Removing that section of the README will be somewhat ugly. The table ton
>>>> that page not only listed the quickstarts, but the technologies each
>>>> demonstrated, the level of experience required, and whether there was a
>>>> prerequisite quickstart. Instead we will have to tell them to read the
>>>> metadata tags at the beginning of each quickstart README file to get
>>>> that information, which is really ugly.
>>>>
>>>> Rafael, is there any way we steal take the code you used to generate
>>>> that table for the JDF site and put it in a script to generate the HTML?
>>>> I could then check the HTML file into the
>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-developer-shared-resources/ web
>>>> site and we could redirect it there?
>>>>
>>>> Or, I could edit the README.html file I generate for the product version
>>>> of the quickstarts and check it into the shared site.j
>>>>
>>>> WDYT?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 08/01/2014 01:17 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 14:15, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 12:31 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:39, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:27 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:24, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wasn't the quickstart table on
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ the one
>>>>>>>>>>>> that included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss ON, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> other product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we added the
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Target Product' metadata  to the README files?
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes
>>>>>>>>>>>> Aren't other product teams also depending on that page with the
>>>>>>>>>>>> table of quickstarts?
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every product to
>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-material/"jdf-arrival" should be valid.
>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying that
>>>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will
>>>>>>>>>> redirect to
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/?
>>>>>>>>>> And that page will contain the same contents that were on the
>>>>>>>>>> original site?
>>>>>>>>>> If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there? ;-)
>>>>>>>>> Nope! I said that http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com should redirect to
>>>>>>>>> an page (that needs to be created) at http://www.jboss.org that
>>>>>>>>> *explains* that JDF (with all Quickstarts, BOMs, Tutorials,etc)
>>>>>>>>> was moved to JBoss Developer materials and provide a button (or
>>>>>>>>> automatic redirect in x seconds) to
>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does everybody agrees with this approach ?
>>>>>>>> I agree we need a redirect. But if the resulting page does not
>>>>>>>> contain the table of quickstarts as described in the README files,
>>>>>>>> I will get bug reports from QA. :-(
>>>>>>> That's why we need an "explain" page. Not only a single redirect ;)
>>>>>> Okay. I guess the best approach for the community quicktarts is to
>>>>>> remove the entire paragraph. Do you agree?
>>>>> Oh yeah! Definitely! :)
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the jdf-site at openshift
>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirect.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But we can also but www.jboss.org/jdf to redirect to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf (or any other jboss.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> URL) with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a brief text similar to:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "JDF site was retired and all its content was moved to JBoss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Developer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or click on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, Archetypes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tutorials,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only problem is that the page does not match what the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text says.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The text in the README says:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The list of all currently available quickstarts can be found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> table
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrates, gives a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and the level of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed information about a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That page does not have a table with all the details.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper redirect to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referenced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can put redirects in place.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit when this change was made; It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       • This was the pull:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       • This was the commit:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a36437fec34346160bd15a0ece07c338
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can remove the link from the community quickstarts, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JIRAs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a download
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point to jdf-site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" URL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for former
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sgilda at redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shipping product
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least the page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/jboss-eap-6.3.0.CR1-quickstarts.zip
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it online here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-develop/README.md#available-quickstarts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the link that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken links?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore. Just the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search/result page.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this page for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too late to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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