[jbosstools-dev] Update site for JBoss SOA Tools

[Len DiMaggio]

The SOA6 dates that I know of are an alpha/early adopter release in January - the GA date is undefined still. A draft PRD is due today. 

Stay tuned, 
Len 

----- Original Message -----

> From: "Nick Boldt" <nboldt at redhat.com>
> To: "Andrej Podhradsky" <apodhrad at redhat.com>
> Cc: "jbosstools-dev jbosstools-dev" <jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org>,
> "Douglas Palmer" <dpalmer at redhat.com>, "Len DiMaggio"
> <ldimaggi at redhat.com>, "Bob Brodt" <bbrodt at redhat.com>,
> "soa-tools-list" <soa-tools-list at redhat.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 2, 2012 10:33:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Update site for JBoss SOA Tools

> Yes, there are certainly new versions of org.eclipse.bpel and bpmn
> available. I just haven't pulled a new mirror in a while, because
> with
> there being no schedule for JBDS SOA 6, there's been no need to
> prioritize that over issues bearing on JBDS Core 6.

> You can get new BPEL/BPMN bits from here:

> http://download.eclipse.org/bpel/site/
> http://download.eclipse.org/bpmn2-modeler/bpmn2/site/
> http://download.eclipse.org/bpmn2-modeler/site/

> Bob Brodt, as the project lead, can give you a sense of what the
> schedule is for upcoming bpel/bpmn2-modeler releases might be, and if
> he's targeting Eclipse Indigo (3.7), Juno (4.2), or Kepler (4.3).

> If you would like me to pull new versions of the above sites into our
> requirements mirror area
> (http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/requirements/) feel
> free
> to throw me a JIRA with the details and I can do so.

> But first, PLEASE send a note to John Graham asking that a schedule
> for
> JBDS SOA 6 be sketched out so we have a timeline against which to
> work
> on creating mirrored bits, target platforms, new development, and QE.
> I
> would suggest that a release should be available before the end of
> 1Q2013, which would also allow it to be tested against the final Juno
> SR2 build, and should we decide to do one, a JBDS Core 6.1.0 or 6.0.1
> release AND have it all nicely tied up with a bow before EclipseCon
> 2013
> in Boston.

> Cheers,

> Nick

> On 11/02/2012 05:44 AM, Andrej Podhradsky wrote:
> > Hi Nick,
> >
> > thank you for the explanation! So, the question is:
> >
> > Is there an update site with new BPEL version which I can use so
> > that my project resolve the dependency on org.eclipse.bpel.model?
> > Or the dependency problem is a tycho related question?
> >
> > Andrej.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nick Boldt" <nboldt at redhat.com>
> > To: "Len DiMaggio" <ldimaggi at redhat.com>
> > Cc: "Andrej Podhradsky" <apodhrad at redhat.com>, "jbosstools-dev
> > jbosstools-dev" <jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org>, "Douglas Palmer"
> > <dpalmer at redhat.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 5:03:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Update site for JBoss SOA Tools
> >
> > Every component build produces an update site. These are composited
> > in
> > an "up to the minute" composite site:
> >
> > >
> > http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/builds/staging/_composite_/soa-tooling/trunk
> >
> > This is nothing more than 2 XML files which point to the 10 source
> > sites
> > (one per component). It changes every time a new nightly is
> > produced for
> > any of the components. It is by nature unstable. You probably don't
> > want
> > to use it.
> >
> > From there, we produce an aggregate snapshot of what's in the
> > composite
> > site:
> >
> > >
> > http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/nightly/soa-tooling/trunk
> >
> > That site is a snapshot (along with a zip) and is therefore stable.
> > But
> > every time the job respins to pick up new child content, the site
> > changes. So it's relatively stable (in that it changes every few
> > hours
> > or days) but it's still a nightly.
> >
> > Yes, you need both - the composite is the input to the aggregate.
> > It's
> > an internal construct that you probably don't need to worry about,
> > however.
> >
> > As to old versions of BPEL, the problem there is that there's been
> > a
> > long outstanding requirement to have a SOA Tooling target platform
> > (https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-11121) but as yet no one's
> > had
> > time to address that. It would allow that there's a single version
> > of
> > Eclipse BPEL against which to build the JBoss BPEL stuff, as well
> > as
> > standardizing the version of UML2, Graphiti, Juno, etc. on which
> > the SOA
> > tooling bits are built.
> >
> > N
> >
> >
> > On 11/01/2012 11:06 AM, Len DiMaggio wrote:
> >> Hey Andrej,
> >>
> >> I have answers to some - but not all.
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> *From: *"Andrej Podhradsky" <apodhrad at redhat.com>
> >> *To: *"jbosstools-dev jbosstools-dev"
> >> <jbosstools-dev at lists.jboss.org>
> >> *Sent: *Thursday, November 1, 2012 10:46:31 AM
> >> *Subject: *[jbosstools-dev] Update site for JBoss SOA Tools
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I'm looking for an update site (nightly build) for soa tools. I
> >> can
> >> see 2 update sites in JBoss Tools parent pom:
> >>
> >> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/builds/staging/_composite_/soa-tooling/trunk
> >> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/nightly/soa-tooling/trunk
> >>
> >> Sorry - Nick - what's the difference here? Do we need both?
> >>
> >>
> >> The first one is added by activating the profile
> >> "jbosstools-nightly-staging-composite-soa-tooling".
> >> Could you explain me what is the goal of this profile/update site?
> >> Because it seems that the second one is up to date.
> >>
> >> So lets talk about the second one which is also mentioned at
> >> http://www.jboss.org/tools/download.
> >> What's the version of Teiid Designer (TD) here? Is it really
> >> 8.0.0.final? Because there si only one release which is TD
> >> 8.0.0.Alpha1.
> >>
> >> That (alpha1) is the latest release.
> >>
> >>
> >> And the last question, just out of curious, how is resolved
> >> dependencies for Bpel (or in general) in
> >> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/nightly/soa-tooling/trunk?
> >> I'm able to install the Bpel Editor without any problem, with all
> >> required plugins, but looking at
> >> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/nightly/soa-tooling/trunk/plugins
> >> I see only one bpel plugin which is org.jboss.tools.bpel.runtimes.
> >> I'm asking because my project, which depends on
> >> org.eclipse.bpel.model, throws a missing requirement error during
> >> compilation.
> >> This doesn't happen when I use the repository
> >> http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/builds/staging/_composite_/soa-tooling/trunk
> >> but this one contains old version of Bpel.
> >>
> >> Something is broken here - again, I don't know why we have 2
> >> separate
> >> and different download sites!
> >>
> >>
> >> Best Regards
> >>
> >> --
> >> Andrej Podhradsky
> >> Quality Assurance Associate
> >> JBoss SOA Platform
> >> IRC: apodhrad at #jbossqa #jbosssoa #jbosssoaqa #devstudio-qa
> >> #brno
> >>
> >>
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> >>
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