[seam-dev] Seam 3 space on JBoss Community

[Tiago Reis]

Dan I understand your perspective, and I agree that improving the
current website is probably not your  biggest concern.

But something needs to be done, and I believe that if we can make the
community improve the website, QA and deploy shouldn't be a very big
overload. There would be no need to make a lot of new versions, just
release few, but good versions ;)

This could be a good way to promote community involvement in SEAM, at
least it would give a lot of people a little of experience on working
in a open source project and perhaps it would lower the entry barrier
to help with SEAM / WELD. I wonder on many using SEAM are comfortable
with open source development?

Either way, moving or not moving what I really want is a better
experience using the website, I really don't care much which one will
we use :-)

And yes, I'm really really interested in helping out with Seam ;)



On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 4:26 AM, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Tiago Reis <tiago.reis at cardmobili.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> As a SEAM user I can tell that I really don't like the current website.
>> Its hard to navigate, hard to find information, hard to keep track of my
>> threads in the forum, timeout time is too short, and some other things.
>> If moving allows for a better experience, I'm all for it. But if we can
>> improve the current web site in order to fix most of the issues that the
>> community complains I'm also good with that.
>> If we keep on the current site, why not try to promote more actively that
>> the community helps improving it? Put a link on the first page, pointing to
>> the most urgent issues on the site. I would love to help, but to be honest I
>> don't know where to start. I bet that there are more people in my position.
>
> Tiago, I see what your saying that getting the community involved with
> improving the website would be in the spirit of open source development. And
> if we were building collaborative software, that might be a good way
> to continuously enhance it. But that's the trouble. We are building an
> integration framework, so working on the website is not really the best use
> of the resources we have. Plus, you have to think about the fact that if we
> change the software, we need to involve QA, both to ensure it doesn't break
> and to ensure the performance is acceptable. Then there is someone that
> needs to upgrade it smoothly. So it's a fair amount of work.
> What would be better is to have contributors fix bugs or add enhancements to
> Seam itself. For sure, we want to give you the steps to get started, but in
> working on Seam, not the website. As for the wiki as an example Seam
> application, I think we could do a better job with more focused examples
> that demonstrate specific features or that apply to different business
> domains, rather than trying to put all the features into this one huge
> example (the wiki).
> I'll also add that we can request improvements in the software that runs
> JBoss Community. It's powered by Jive SBS (social business software), and
> they are continuously adding or refining features. So what is there today
> isn't all there ever will be. And even that software has an extension API,
> so you could contribute enhancements, though I'm not sure of the specifics
> at this point. I'd have to ask Mark. But hopefully you will be interested in
> helping out with Seam instead ;)
> -Dan
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> Dan Allen
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>
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