[seam-dev] Seam 3 space on JBoss Community

[ianmichell at gmail.com]

I for one agree, it should not just be up to seam contributers / redhat  
folk to build the seam website, I think that it should be pushed out to the  
community that support it. I for one think that seam needs to maintain it's  
own website only because people that want to use seam or are investigating  
migration to seam will see the site as a showcase.

The community around seam are your friends; let them help and seam will end  
up better for it...

I am also quite willing to contribute where time allows!

On , Tiago Reis <tiago.reis at cardmobili.com> wrote:
> Dan I understand your perspective, and I agree that improving the

> current website is probably not your biggest concern.



> But something needs to be done, and I believe that if we can make the

> community improve the website, QA and deploy shouldn't be a very big

> overload. There would be no need to make a lot of new versions, just

> release few, but good versions ;)



> This could be a good way to promote community involvement in SEAM, at

> least it would give a lot of people a little of experience on working

> in a open source project and perhaps it would lower the entry barrier

> to help with SEAM / WELD. I wonder on many using SEAM are comfortable

> with open source development?



> Either way, moving or not moving what I really want is a better

> experience using the website, I really don't care much which one will

> we use :-)



> And yes, I'm really really interested in helping out with Seam ;)







> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 4:26 AM, Dan Allen dan.j.allen at gmail.com> wrote:

> > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Tiago Reis tiago.reis at cardmobili.com>

> > wrote:

> >>

> >> Hi,

> >> As a SEAM user I can tell that I really don't like the current website.

> >> Its hard to navigate, hard to find information, hard to keep track of  
> my

> >> threads in the forum, timeout time is too short, and some other things.

> >> If moving allows for a better experience, I'm all for it. But if we can

> >> improve the current web site in order to fix most of the issues that  
> the

> >> community complains I'm also good with that.

> >> If we keep on the current site, why not try to promote more actively  
> that

> >> the community helps improving it? Put a link on the first page,  
> pointing to

> >> the most urgent issues on the site. I would love to help, but to be  
> honest I

> >> don't know where to start. I bet that there are more people in my  
> position.

> >

> > Tiago, I see what your saying that getting the community involved with

> > improving the website would be in the spirit of open source  
> development. And

> > if we were building collaborative software, that might be a good way

> > to continuously enhance it. But that's the trouble. We are building an

> > integration framework, so working on the website is not really the best  
> use

> > of the resources we have. Plus, you have to think about the fact that  
> if we

> > change the software, we need to involve QA, both to ensure it doesn't  
> break

> > and to ensure the performance is acceptable. Then there is someone that

> > needs to upgrade it smoothly. So it's a fair amount of work.

> > What would be better is to have contributors fix bugs or add  
> enhancements to

> > Seam itself. For sure, we want to give you the steps to get started,  
> but in

> > working on Seam, not the website. As for the wiki as an example Seam

> > application, I think we could do a better job with more focused examples

> > that demonstrate specific features or that apply to different business

> > domains, rather than trying to put all the features into this one huge

> > example (the wiki).

> > I'll also add that we can request improvements in the software that runs

> > JBoss Community. It's powered by Jive SBS (social business software),  
> and

> > they are continuously adding or refining features. So what is there  
> today

> > isn't all there ever will be. And even that software has an extension  
> API,

> > so you could contribute enhancements, though I'm not sure of the  
> specifics

> > at this point. I'd have to ask Mark. But hopefully you will be  
> interested in

> > helping out with Seam instead ;)

> > -Dan

> > --

> > Dan Allen

> > Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action

> > Registered Linux User #231597

> >

> > http://mojavelinux.com

> > http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction

> > http://www.google.com/profiles/dan.j.allen

> >







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