[seam-dev] Seam 3 space on JBoss Community

[Arbi Sookazian]

Behold!

http://community.jboss.org/thread/149690

Bring it up!!!

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 1:47 AM, <ianmichell at gmail.com> wrote:

> I for one agree, it should not just be up to seam contributers / redhat
> folk to build the seam website, I think that it should be pushed out to the
> community that support it. I for one think that seam needs to maintain it's
> own website only because people that want to use seam or are investigating
> migration to seam will see the site as a showcase.
>
> The community around seam are your friends; let them help and seam will end
> up better for it...
>
> I am also quite willing to contribute where time allows!
>
>
> On , Tiago Reis <tiago.reis at cardmobili.com> wrote:
> > Dan I understand your perspective, and I agree that improving the
> >
> > current website is probably not your  biggest concern.
> >
> >
> >
> > But something needs to be done, and I believe that if we can make the
> >
> > community improve the website, QA and deploy shouldn't be a very big
> >
> > overload. There would be no need to make a lot of new versions, just
> >
> > release few, but good versions ;)
> >
> >
> >
> > This could be a good way to promote community involvement in SEAM, at
> >
> > least it would give a lot of people a little of experience on working
> >
> > in a open source project and perhaps it would lower the entry barrier
> >
> > to help with SEAM / WELD. I wonder on many using SEAM are comfortable
> >
> > with open source development?
> >
> >
> >
> > Either way, moving or not moving what I really want is a better
> >
> > experience using the website, I really don't care much which one will
> >
> > we use :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > And yes, I'm really really interested in helping out with Seam ;)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 4:26 AM, Dan Allen dan.j.allen at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Tiago Reis tiago.reis at cardmobili.com>
> >
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >>
> >
> > >> Hi,
> >
> > >> As a SEAM user I can tell that I really don't like the current
> website.
> >
> > >> Its hard to navigate, hard to find information, hard to keep track of
> my
> >
> > >> threads in the forum, timeout time is too short, and some other
> things.
> >
> > >> If moving allows for a better experience, I'm all for it. But if we
> can
> >
> > >> improve the current web site in order to fix most of the issues that
> the
> >
> > >> community complains I'm also good with that.
> >
> > >> If we keep on the current site, why not try to promote more actively
> that
> >
> > >> the community helps improving it? Put a link on the first page,
> pointing to
> >
> > >> the most urgent issues on the site. I would love to help, but to be
> honest I
> >
> > >> don't know where to start. I bet that there are more people in my
> position.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Tiago, I see what your saying that getting the community involved with
> >
> > > improving the website would be in the spirit of open source
> development. And
> >
> > > if we were building collaborative software, that might be a good way
> >
> > > to continuously enhance it. But that's the trouble. We are building an
> >
> > > integration framework, so working on the website is not really the best
> use
> >
> > > of the resources we have. Plus, you have to think about the fact that
> if we
> >
> > > change the software, we need to involve QA, both to ensure it doesn't
> break
> >
> > > and to ensure the performance is acceptable. Then there is someone that
> >
> > > needs to upgrade it smoothly. So it's a fair amount of work.
> >
> > > What would be better is to have contributors fix bugs or add
> enhancements to
> >
> > > Seam itself. For sure, we want to give you the steps to get started,
> but in
> >
> > > working on Seam, not the website. As for the wiki as an example Seam
> >
> > > application, I think we could do a better job with more focused
> examples
> >
> > > that demonstrate specific features or that apply to different business
> >
> > > domains, rather than trying to put all the features into this one huge
> >
> > > example (the wiki).
> >
> > > I'll also add that we can request improvements in the software that
> runs
> >
> > > JBoss Community. It's powered by Jive SBS (social business software),
> and
> >
> > > they are continuously adding or refining features. So what is there
> today
> >
> > > isn't all there ever will be. And even that software has an extension
> API,
> >
> > > so you could contribute enhancements, though I'm not sure of the
> specifics
> >
> > > at this point. I'd have to ask Mark. But hopefully you will be
> interested in
> >
> > > helping out with Seam instead ;)
> >
> > > -Dan
> >
> > > --
> >
> > > Dan Allen
> >
> > > Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action
> >
> > > Registered Linux User #231597
> >
> > >
> >
> > > http://mojavelinux.com
> >
> > > http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction
> >
> > > http://www.google.com/profiles/dan.j.allen
> >
> > >
> >
> >
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> >
> > --
> >
> >  Tiago Reis
> >
> >
> >
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> > tiago.reis at cardmobili.com
> >
> >
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