----- Original Message -----
From: "Anil Saldhana" <Anil.Saldhana(a)redhat.com>
To: keycloak-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
Sent: Monday, 23 December, 2013 4:11:25 PM
Subject: Re: [keycloak-dev] Certificate Management, Directory Services and Device
Registration
On 12/23/2013 03:21 AM, Stian Thorgersen wrote:
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Burke" <bburke(a)redhat.com> > To:
keycloak-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >
> Sent: Friday, 20 December, 2013 8:42:06 PM > Subject: Re: [keycloak-dev]
> Certificate Management, Directory Services and Device Registration > > >
>
> On 12/20/2013 3:27 PM, Anil Saldhana wrote:
> > Some of this is what I hear from users, customers and the industry. Also
> > > > see below: > > > > On 12/20/2013 02:23 PM, Anil Saldhana
wrote:
> >> Bill brought out some thoughts in my mind which I want to capture here
>
> >> >> to see what your thoughts are: > >> > >> *
Certificate Management >
> >> >> - We need a good system to CRUD certificates. The only good Java
> >> based > >> oss I have seen is EJBCA.
EJBCA is a no-go as it's looks like it's heavily dependent on JavaEE. For
LiveOak we need whatever libraries we use to be non-JavaEE.
Stian - let me take a guess here. You think maybe writing a thin REST based
system for certificate management is better?
I haven't thought much about it, but yes I think everything should be exposed through
REST. Re-utilizing existing stuff is great though, but as long as we want to embed
Keycloak into the LiveOak container it can't require a JavaEE runtime.
EJBCA is an old project. I guess they started out as EJB based
services.
Had a quick look at docs and looks like it is built as a set of EJBs and deployable to
JBoss AS
> >> > >> * Directory Server/Services > >> - We have ApacheDS
and OpenDS (or
> >> > >> the ForgeRock version) as two > >> possibilities in
Java based
> >> > >> directory servers. I am unsure if we have > >>
really explored
> >> > >> building a solution for directory services.
> > * Another important consideration is Active Directory. It is an > >
> > ecosystem - has LDAP, Kerberos/SPNego, SAML, WSTrust etc. I think we > >
> > really need some type of Open Source solution to this ecosystem. The > >
> > core starts with directory services or a facade. > >
> > A huge part of Keycloak's value-add is it provides the UI for login, >
> > registration, acct/credential/device/realm management. If these AD/LDAP
> > > services are read-only, then there's not a lot Keycloak can offer
you.
> > > > Also, for Keycloak 1.0.Final, we're focusing solely on securing
Web
> > Apps > and RESTful services. We can't have too many tangents or
feature
> > creep.
We can't wait to long to support mobile devices (at least Android and iOS).
These would be required by both LiveOak and AeroGear. Not sure if that's
before or after a 1.0.Final though. AeroGear guys can probably help us out
here though, as they're working on OAuth2 libraries.
Agree. Having REST based MBaaS dealing with mobile devices may be critical.
Apache UserGrid is the new entrant in the oss space.
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