On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 5:25 AM Marek Posolda <mposolda(a)redhat.com
<mailto:mposolda@redhat.com>> wrote:
On 29/01/2019 19:49, Pedro Igor Silva wrote:
> I'm not sure if we need to consider that in our adapters.
>
> Usually, the front-end knows the set of scopes that it needs to
> interact with the backend and stay functional.
Maybe. I am personally not sure how people expect to use "scope"
parameters in their frontend applications. Maybe 90% of frontend
clients don't need to use "scope" parameter at all. And from the
remaining, they will be fine with the current support of the
"scope" parameter.
I would say so, mainly because I think people are still using RBAC to
enforce access to APIs. Enterprise scenarios don't really use scopes
as they are more related with delegation.
Yeah, maybe. Just a note that our client scopes support also allows to
limit roles in the token. For example you can define role scope mappings
of client scope "service1" to have role "service1.my-service1-role" .
So
by requesting "scope=service1", you will also receive this role in the
token and hence can be used for RBAC based authorization.
But anyway, I probably won't create any JIRAs for now. Will wait if
there is some more feedback or some more requests for better support of
"scope" parameter in the adapters.
Thanks for the feedback Pedro!
Marek
One possibility, where I can see usage of this, is when frontend
client wants to invoke multiple different services and he wants to
use different access tokens with properly "isolated" audiences. So
for example you want to have:
- access token with "scope=service1", which will have in itself
audience claim "aud: service1" and you will use it to invoke
backend service1
- access token with "scope=service2", which will have in itself
audience claim "aud: service2" and you will use it to invoke
backend service2
In this case, having the possibility for adapters to "cache"
multiple tokens for various scopes can be beneficial IMO, so
client can easily retrieve proper access token based on the
service he wants to invoke.
> And the backend by itself is free to exchange tokens to call
> other services (service chaining).
Don't think that brings a lot of complexity to the front-end and,
probably, indicates a bad design?
IMO in many cases, you're right. For example when frontend client
uses access token to invoke backend "service1", this backend may
want to retrieve some other data from "service11". So service1
backend needs to reuse the token or he wants to exchange this token.
But in many cases, you want to avoid this. So in my example above,
when you have access token with "aud: service1", you want this
access token to be used solely to invoke service1. You don't want
to have one huge access token, which will have all the audiences like:
aud: [ "service1", "service2" ]
The access token is also tied with the client, what means "this client
is allowed to invoke service1 and service2". I usually don't see a
problem on that if you consider that multiple audiences mean that a
high degree of trust between the parties involved. What I think is
true for most enterprise use cases where the front-end is basically
accessing internal services.
It is also worthy to consider, IMO, that the fact that you have
distinct services, does not mean they are not part of the same API,
thus the same audience.
You may want separate access tokens with isolated audiences
exactly because you don't want service1 and service2 to be able to
invoke each other. IMO this isolation is one of the main usages of
the "aud" claim in the tokens.
>
> One thing that makes sense though is "incremental authorization"
> and allow apps to request additional scopes during an
> authentication session, so the app gets what was previously
> granted and the new scopes (depending on user consent). But I
> think we support that already, right ?
We don't support it directly and maybe this is something to
improve. ATM you will need programatically do something like this:
String existingScope = existingAccessToken.getScope();
// I want to use existingScope and add "phone" scope to it
String newScope = existingScope + " phone";
// Request the login for new scope now
The part of "requesting login for new scope" is possible with
javascript adapter, but not easily with the "java" adapter. With
java adapter, there is no easy way to manually "build" URL to sent
to OIDC authentication endpoint (equivalent of keycloak.js method
"createLoginUrl"). That's also one of the things, which I proposed
to improve in this email thread.
Marek
>
> Regards.
> Pedro Igor
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 9:36 AM Marek Posolda
> <mposolda(a)redhat.com <mailto:mposolda@redhat.com>> wrote:
>
> During my work on Client Scopes last year, I did not any work
> on the
> adapters side. I think there is a space for improvement here.
> I will try
> to summary current issues and some initial proposals for
> improve things.
> Suggestions welcomed! And sorry for longer email :)
>
>
> Both javascript adapter and servlet adapter has some way for
> requesting
> the additional "scope" and ensure that that initial OIDC
> authentication
> request sent to Keycloak will contain some custom "scope"
> parameter. The
> javascript adapter has support for "scope" as an option of
> the "login"
> method [1]. The servlet adapter has a possibility to inject
> custom
> "scope" with parameters forwarding [2]. I am not sure about
> node.js and
> other adapters TBH. But even for javascript and servlet
> adapter, the
> current support is quite limited for few reasons. For example:
>
> - The approach of parameters forwarding used in servlet adapters
> requires to logout before requesting the additional scope.
> Because when
> I am already authenticated in the application and I open
> secured URL
> like
http://localhost/app/secured?scope=some-custom-scope,
> the adapter
> will just ignore it in case that user is already logged-in
> and it will
> automatically forward to the application.
>
> - Both servlet and javascript adapters support to have just
> single
> "triplet" of tokens per browser session. In this context
> "triplet" means
> the single set of 3 tokens (ID token , Access Token , Refresh
> token). So
> for example when I want to request the custom scope for being
> able to
> invoke "service1", I can use "scope=service1". However
after
> Keycloak
> redirects me back to the application, the existing triplet of
> tokens is
> just replaced with the new one for "service1" . Then when I
> want to
> later invoke another service like "service2", I need to
> request the
> additional scope "scope=service2", which will replace my
> tokens on the
> adapter's side with the "service2" tokens . But then later
> when I want
> to switch again to "service1", I need to redirect to Keycloak
> again as
> the current triplet of tokens for "service1" etc.
>
>
> To improve this limitation, I think that it will be good if
> adapters
> easily support the following:
>
> - Instead of having single triplet of tokens, it will be good if
> adapters can contain Map of tokens. Key of the map can be
> "scope"
> parameter. So for example, the adapter will have "default"
> tokens
> (those, which were used for initial login), the tokens for
> "service1"
> and the tokens for "service2" .
>
> - It will be nice if there is easy way to ask adapter for
> "service1"
> scope. In case that I don't have yet this scope, adapter will
> redirect
> me to Keycloak with "scope=service1". If I already have it,
> adapter will
> return me an existing token. If existing access token is
> expired,
> adapter will refresh the access token for requested scope in the
> background and return me the "updated" token.
>
> - When I want to invoke service1 and I need to use
> "scope=service1", I
> usually need just access token and refresh token. I don't
> need ID Token
> anymore. I also don't need the "profile" and "email"
claims
> to be
> returned in the new access token. This is related to the JIRA
> of having
> the server-side support for client scopes like (always, default,
> optional) instead of current (default, optional) [3]. In
> other words,
> the client scopes "profile" and "email" will be default
> client scopes,
> which means that if I don't use "scope=openid" in the OIDC
> initial
> request, the "profile" and "email" will be ommited from
the
> response as
> well as the ID Token will be ommited from the response.
>
>
> So how to support this on adapters? For Keycloak.js, I can
> think about
> some variation of existing "update" method like this:
>
>
> keycloak.updateTokenWithScope('service1',
> 5).success(function(accessToken, refreshed) {
> if (refreshed) {
> alert("I had existing accessToken for scope
> 'service1', but
> it needed to be refreshed as it was expired or about to
> expire in less
> than 5 seconds");
> } else {
> alert('I have accessToken for 'service1', which
> didn't
> need to be refreshed');
> }
> // I can invoke REST service now with the accessToken
> ...
> }).error(function() {
> alert("Failed to refresh the token OR I don't have
> yet scope
> for 'service1' .");
> // User usually need to call keycloak.login with the
> requested
> scope now...
> });
>
>
>
>
> For servlet adapter something like:
>
> KeycloakSecurityContext ctx = ... // Retrieved from
> HttpServletRequest
> or Principal as currently
>
> if (ctx.hasScope("service1")) {
> try {
> String accessToken = ctx.getScope("service1");
> // Invoke service1 with accessToken now
> } catch (TokenRefreshException ex) {
> log.error("I already had scope for service1, but
> failed to
> refresh the token. Need to re-login for the scope service1");
>
> // See method below
> redirectToKeycloakWithService1Scope();
> }
> } else {
> // See method below
> redirectToKeycloakWithService1Scope();
> }
>
>
> private void redirectToKeycloakWithService1Scope() {
> KeycloakRedirectUriBuilder builder = ctx.createLoginUrl();
> URL url = builder.scope("service1").build();
> httpServletResponse.sendRedirect(url);
> }
>
>
> Regarding the class KeycloakRedirectUriBuilder, I was
> thinking about
> this class so that servlet adapter are able to easily create
> login URL
> with custom values for things like scope, prompt, max_age
> etc. This
> capability is currently missing in servlet adapters and the
> current
> approach based on parameters forwarding is a bit clunky for
> few reasons.
> One reason is usability and the other is, that you need to
> logout first.
>
>
> [1]
>
https://www.keycloak.org/docs/latest/securing_apps/index.html#javascript-...
> [2]
>
https://www.keycloak.org/docs/latest/securing_apps/index.html#_params_for...
> [3]
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/KEYCLOAK-8323
>
> Marek
>
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