Re: [keycloak-dev] Custom Policy Enforcer
by Pedro Igor Silva
Yes, exactly ... So you just leverage what we already have in order to
expose "manual enforcement" by wrapping the call to the PE (which is the
one that creates the AC anyways).
On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 6:54 PM Sushil Singh <sushil.singh(a)guavus.com>
wrote:
> AuthorizationContext authzContext =
> keycloakSecurityContext.getAuthorizationContext();
>
> AdapterAuthorizationContext clientContext = AdapterAuthorizationContext.class.cast(, );
>
> clientContext.authorize(Map);
>
>
> I think this is the way , i will invoke it programatically.
>
> yeah i can write a simple quick-start , i will do it by tomorrow or day
> after tomorrow and then we can discuss further
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Pedro Igor Silva <psilva(a)redhat.com>
> *Sent:* 12 November 2019 02:42
> *To:* Sushil Singh <sushil.singh(a)guavus.com>
> *Cc:* keycloak-dev <keycloak-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Custom Policy Enforcer
>
> You should be able to obtain the context instance like that [1]. And then,
> invoke the method to programmatically enforce access.
>
> If I understand correctly, the permission map you pass is basically the
> set of resource/scopes that you want to return in a permission ticket and
> later on check if the resulting RPT is granted with the same set. We should
> ideally reuse as much as possible the main logic in the enforcer. And the
> enforcement mode should be permissive or disabled to allow the request to
> reach your endpoint so you can enforce access by yourself.
>
> In any case, the PE should allow the request to pass with an empty
> authorization context so that you can invoke the appropriate method to
> enforce access.
>
> [1]
> https://www.keycloak.org/docs/latest/authorization_services/index.html#_e...
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 5:56 PM Sushil Singh <sushil.singh(a)guavus.com>
> wrote:
>
> Just by looking , changes look good .
>
> I have a question , how will I invoke it programatically , I mean on what
> object i have to call , giving permission (Map) as as an input parameter.
>
> If I specify enforcement mode as Enforcing or Permissive , permission will
> always be null
>
> Also it will be good if we can incorporate audit logging , if not now then
> we can consider it in future
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Pedro Igor Silva <psilva(a)redhat.com>
> *Sent:* 12 November 2019 01:58
> *To:* Sushil Singh <sushil.singh(a)guavus.com>
> *Cc:* keycloak-dev <keycloak-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Custom Policy Enforcer
>
> I see. I'm just trying to figure out if we can't somehow address the
> problem by enhancing the configuration. For instance, in regards to the
> `/api/datasets/{databasename}` I think we have a similar approach in the
> Photoz quickstart, where the path parameter representing the ID of the
> resource is used to automatically create the ticket and enforce access
> later on when an RPT arrives.
>
> But yeah, the other scenarios are not covered.
>
> I'm OK to improve this based on your changes and following an approach
> similar to what I shared from my branch. Does it make sense for you ? I may
> have removed some bits from your original changes but the idea is just to
> show how we could leverage the `AuthorizationContext`, which is already
> available to the application through `KeycloakSecurityContext`.
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 4:25 PM Sushil Singh <sushil.singh(a)guavus.com>
> wrote:
>
> @Pedro Igor Silva <psilva(a)redhat.com>
>
> I want to clarify little bit about the example you are stating ,
>
> {
> "path" : "/someUri/*",
> "methods" : [
> {
> "method": "GET",
> "scopes" : ["view"]
> },
> {
> "method": "DELETE",
> "scopes" : ["delete"]
> }
> ]
> },
>
> See , if our resources are static and not dynamic , I can put them in a
> keycloak.json file no worries.
> But when it comes to resources which are not end-point specific or not
> directly related to endpoint , but the actual data itself. I think it is
> better to keep them on server side rather than a config file . It can be
> 1000 at present , it can be lakhs and crores if i consider the future scope
>
> for eg-: /api/datasets/{datasetname} , each dataset will be resource and
> we will be configuring resources as /datasets/dataset1
> /datasets/dataset2
>
> So, each dataset will be a resource and will be created in keycloak server
> when the actual Data is created. So , every time i create a resource , i
> won't require to configure keycloak.json.
>
> The current implementation of configuring paths that keycloak provides is
> good when resources are static. for eg-: if end points are resources , so
> they are most likely static . But for our case it won't work
>
> Another example can be , if there is a non rest resource and scope /
> action is coming as a query parameter. Current keycloak implementation will
> not work as we can configure only on URL's . So the customEnforcer will
> provide the flexibility to cover all these cases.
>
> There are other cases , where there is a pipeline which is dependent on
> another resources.
>
> So let's consider Non Rest resource such as PIPELINE , A pipeline itself
> will contain a set of resources , So Pipeline can have a scope START, STOP
> , DELETE , RESTART etc.
> So resources and actions can come as a query parameter . So , the
> custom-enforcer functionality can provide us enforcing policies with use
> cases like that
>
> Hope the use case is getting more clearer to you
>
> Thanks
>
> Sushil Pratap Singh
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Pedro Igor Silva <psilva(a)redhat.com>
> *Sent:* 11 November 2019 23:33
> *To:* Sushil Singh <sushil.singh(a)guavus.com>; keycloak-dev <
> keycloak-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Custom Policy Enforcer
>
> Here is a scratch [1]. But I'm not fully convinced about the changes you
> are proposing. Maybe what is missing is an example of how this will be used
> in practice.
>
> Isn't that the same thing as configuring a path like this?
>
> ```
> {
> "path" : "/someUri/*",
> "methods" : [
> {
> "method": "GET",
> "scopes" : ["view"]
> },
> {
> "method": "DELETE",
> "scopes" : ["delete"]
> }
> ]
> },
> ```
>
> [1] https://github.com/pedroigor/keycloak/tree/KEYCLOAK-11300
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 1:44 PM Pedro Igor Silva <psilva(a)redhat.com>
> wrote:
>
> OK. I'm going to write something and give to you ...
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 1:41 PM Sushil Singh <sushil.singh(a)guavus.com>
> wrote:
>
> @Pedro Igor Silva <psilva(a)redhat.com>
>
> Can you suggest pseudo flow what you are trying to say
>
> It will be good for me to understand how it can be achieved using
> AuthorizationContext .
>
> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Pedro Igor Silva <psilva(a)redhat.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, November 11, 2019 10:05:06 PM
> *To:* keycloak-dev <keycloak-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>; Sushil Singh <
> sushil.singh(a)guavus.com>
> *Subject:* Custom Policy Enforcer
>
> Hi,
>
> We have started some discussions about a custom policy enforcer at
> https://github.com/keycloak/keycloak/pull/6448.
>
> For those interested in how to programmatically enforce permissions,
> please look at that PR and discussions that should start to happen here.
>
> @Sushil Singh <sushil.singh(a)guavus.com>, If the idea is to expose the PE
> functionality so that you can programmatically get the same behavior to
> when requests are processed, I think we can still make it through the
> `AuthorizationContex` interface.
>
> In fact, the code won't change much from what you did so we basically
> encapsulate the call to the actual policy enforcer.
>
> Regards.
> Pedro Igor
>
>
6 years, 1 month
Preview and optional features
by Stian Thorgersen
We currently have a mechanism in place to allow features to be marked as
preview, experimental and disabled-by-default.
Enabling/disabling these features requires restarting the server and also
it is a global option.
It may be better to instead have these as options on a realm. This would
allow enabling/disabling such features at runtime, and it would be possible
to enable through the admin console directly.
It also has the benefit of allowing certain features only for certain
realms. For example you may want to enable impersonation only for a
specific realm, not for all realms. Same with a preview feature you may
want to enable it in a test realm, not for all realms.
Thoughts?
6 years, 1 month
Redirect urls are not taking into account default ports
by Michal Hajas
Hi all,
during testing of openshift + keycloak with Vlasta, we encountered some
port problems with our testsuite. The thing is that our testsuite almost
always counts with some port in redirect uris. The problem is, when
keycloak is running on port 80 because browser sometimes removes this port
which results in a failure because keycloak expects url including port.
One solution is to double redirect urls (with and without port) in realms
in testsuite. This is something we already started to work on and have some
working test classes already. However, before changing it everywhere we
would like to confirm that Keycloak is behaving correctly and should refuse
redirect uri if it differs only in in/excluding port 80 from url in
specified in realm.
Example:
1. Client contains valid redirect url: http://DOMAIN:80/CONTEXT
2. You open login page with redirect_uri=http://DOMAIN/CONTEXT
3. Should Keycloak refuse such login with error page: "Invalid parameter:
redirect_uri"
Michal
6 years, 1 month
Re: [keycloak-dev] Custom Policy Enforcer
by Pedro Igor Silva
You should be able to obtain the context instance like that [1]. And then,
invoke the method to programmatically enforce access.
If I understand correctly, the permission map you pass is basically the set
of resource/scopes that you want to return in a permission ticket and later
on check if the resulting RPT is granted with the same set. We should
ideally reuse as much as possible the main logic in the enforcer. And the
enforcement mode should be permissive or disabled to allow the request to
reach your endpoint so you can enforce access by yourself.
In any case, the PE should allow the request to pass with an empty
authorization context so that you can invoke the appropriate method to
enforce access.
[1]
https://www.keycloak.org/docs/latest/authorization_services/index.html#_e...
On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 5:56 PM Sushil Singh <sushil.singh(a)guavus.com>
wrote:
> Just by looking , changes look good .
>
> I have a question , how will I invoke it programatically , I mean on what
> object i have to call , giving permission (Map) as as an input parameter.
>
> If I specify enforcement mode as Enforcing or Permissive , permission will
> always be null
>
> Also it will be good if we can incorporate audit logging , if not now then
> we can consider it in future
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Pedro Igor Silva <psilva(a)redhat.com>
> *Sent:* 12 November 2019 01:58
> *To:* Sushil Singh <sushil.singh(a)guavus.com>
> *Cc:* keycloak-dev <keycloak-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Custom Policy Enforcer
>
> I see. I'm just trying to figure out if we can't somehow address the
> problem by enhancing the configuration. For instance, in regards to the
> `/api/datasets/{databasename}` I think we have a similar approach in the
> Photoz quickstart, where the path parameter representing the ID of the
> resource is used to automatically create the ticket and enforce access
> later on when an RPT arrives.
>
> But yeah, the other scenarios are not covered.
>
> I'm OK to improve this based on your changes and following an approach
> similar to what I shared from my branch. Does it make sense for you ? I may
> have removed some bits from your original changes but the idea is just to
> show how we could leverage the `AuthorizationContext`, which is already
> available to the application through `KeycloakSecurityContext`.
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 4:25 PM Sushil Singh <sushil.singh(a)guavus.com>
> wrote:
>
> @Pedro Igor Silva <psilva(a)redhat.com>
>
> I want to clarify little bit about the example you are stating ,
>
> {
> "path" : "/someUri/*",
> "methods" : [
> {
> "method": "GET",
> "scopes" : ["view"]
> },
> {
> "method": "DELETE",
> "scopes" : ["delete"]
> }
> ]
> },
>
> See , if our resources are static and not dynamic , I can put them in a
> keycloak.json file no worries.
> But when it comes to resources which are not end-point specific or not
> directly related to endpoint , but the actual data itself. I think it is
> better to keep them on server side rather than a config file . It can be
> 1000 at present , it can be lakhs and crores if i consider the future scope
>
> for eg-: /api/datasets/{datasetname} , each dataset will be resource and
> we will be configuring resources as /datasets/dataset1
> /datasets/dataset2
>
> So, each dataset will be a resource and will be created in keycloak server
> when the actual Data is created. So , every time i create a resource , i
> won't require to configure keycloak.json.
>
> The current implementation of configuring paths that keycloak provides is
> good when resources are static. for eg-: if end points are resources , so
> they are most likely static . But for our case it won't work
>
> Another example can be , if there is a non rest resource and scope /
> action is coming as a query parameter. Current keycloak implementation will
> not work as we can configure only on URL's . So the customEnforcer will
> provide the flexibility to cover all these cases.
>
> There are other cases , where there is a pipeline which is dependent on
> another resources.
>
> So let's consider Non Rest resource such as PIPELINE , A pipeline itself
> will contain a set of resources , So Pipeline can have a scope START, STOP
> , DELETE , RESTART etc.
> So resources and actions can come as a query parameter . So , the
> custom-enforcer functionality can provide us enforcing policies with use
> cases like that
>
> Hope the use case is getting more clearer to you
>
> Thanks
>
> Sushil Pratap Singh
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Pedro Igor Silva <psilva(a)redhat.com>
> *Sent:* 11 November 2019 23:33
> *To:* Sushil Singh <sushil.singh(a)guavus.com>; keycloak-dev <
> keycloak-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Custom Policy Enforcer
>
> Here is a scratch [1]. But I'm not fully convinced about the changes you
> are proposing. Maybe what is missing is an example of how this will be used
> in practice.
>
> Isn't that the same thing as configuring a path like this?
>
> ```
> {
> "path" : "/someUri/*",
> "methods" : [
> {
> "method": "GET",
> "scopes" : ["view"]
> },
> {
> "method": "DELETE",
> "scopes" : ["delete"]
> }
> ]
> },
> ```
>
> [1] https://github.com/pedroigor/keycloak/tree/KEYCLOAK-11300
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 1:44 PM Pedro Igor Silva <psilva(a)redhat.com>
> wrote:
>
> OK. I'm going to write something and give to you ...
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 1:41 PM Sushil Singh <sushil.singh(a)guavus.com>
> wrote:
>
> @Pedro Igor Silva <psilva(a)redhat.com>
>
> Can you suggest pseudo flow what you are trying to say
>
> It will be good for me to understand how it can be achieved using
> AuthorizationContext .
>
> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Pedro Igor Silva <psilva(a)redhat.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, November 11, 2019 10:05:06 PM
> *To:* keycloak-dev <keycloak-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>; Sushil Singh <
> sushil.singh(a)guavus.com>
> *Subject:* Custom Policy Enforcer
>
> Hi,
>
> We have started some discussions about a custom policy enforcer at
> https://github.com/keycloak/keycloak/pull/6448.
>
> For those interested in how to programmatically enforce permissions,
> please look at that PR and discussions that should start to happen here.
>
> @Sushil Singh <sushil.singh(a)guavus.com>, If the idea is to expose the PE
> functionality so that you can programmatically get the same behavior to
> when requests are processed, I think we can still make it through the
> `AuthorizationContex` interface.
>
> In fact, the code won't change much from what you did so we basically
> encapsulate the call to the actual policy enforcer.
>
> Regards.
> Pedro Igor
>
>
6 years, 1 month
Re: [keycloak-dev] Custom Policy Enforcer
by Pedro Igor Silva
I see. I'm just trying to figure out if we can't somehow address the
problem by enhancing the configuration. For instance, in regards to the
`/api/datasets/{databasename}` I think we have a similar approach in the
Photoz quickstart, where the path parameter representing the ID of the
resource is used to automatically create the ticket and enforce access
later on when an RPT arrives.
But yeah, the other scenarios are not covered.
I'm OK to improve this based on your changes and following an approach
similar to what I shared from my branch. Does it make sense for you ? I may
have removed some bits from your original changes but the idea is just to
show how we could leverage the `AuthorizationContext`, which is already
available to the application through `KeycloakSecurityContext`.
On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 4:25 PM Sushil Singh <sushil.singh(a)guavus.com>
wrote:
> @Pedro Igor Silva <psilva(a)redhat.com>
>
> I want to clarify little bit about the example you are stating ,
>
> {
> "path" : "/someUri/*",
> "methods" : [
> {
> "method": "GET",
> "scopes" : ["view"]
> },
> {
> "method": "DELETE",
> "scopes" : ["delete"]
> }
> ]
> },
>
> See , if our resources are static and not dynamic , I can put them in a
> keycloak.json file no worries.
> But when it comes to resources which are not end-point specific or not
> directly related to endpoint , but the actual data itself. I think it is
> better to keep them on server side rather than a config file . It can be
> 1000 at present , it can be lakhs and crores if i consider the future scope
>
> for eg-: /api/datasets/{datasetname} , each dataset will be resource and
> we will be configuring resources as /datasets/dataset1
> /datasets/dataset2
>
> So, each dataset will be a resource and will be created in keycloak server
> when the actual Data is created. So , every time i create a resource , i
> won't require to configure keycloak.json.
>
> The current implementation of configuring paths that keycloak provides is
> good when resources are static. for eg-: if end points are resources , so
> they are most likely static . But for our case it won't work
>
> Another example can be , if there is a non rest resource and scope /
> action is coming as a query parameter. Current keycloak implementation will
> not work as we can configure only on URL's . So the customEnforcer will
> provide the flexibility to cover all these cases.
>
> There are other cases , where there is a pipeline which is dependent on
> another resources.
>
> So let's consider Non Rest resource such as PIPELINE , A pipeline itself
> will contain a set of resources , So Pipeline can have a scope START, STOP
> , DELETE , RESTART etc.
> So resources and actions can come as a query parameter . So , the
> custom-enforcer functionality can provide us enforcing policies with use
> cases like that
>
> Hope the use case is getting more clearer to you
>
> Thanks
>
> Sushil Pratap Singh
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Pedro Igor Silva <psilva(a)redhat.com>
> *Sent:* 11 November 2019 23:33
> *To:* Sushil Singh <sushil.singh(a)guavus.com>; keycloak-dev <
> keycloak-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Custom Policy Enforcer
>
> Here is a scratch [1]. But I'm not fully convinced about the changes you
> are proposing. Maybe what is missing is an example of how this will be used
> in practice.
>
> Isn't that the same thing as configuring a path like this?
>
> ```
> {
> "path" : "/someUri/*",
> "methods" : [
> {
> "method": "GET",
> "scopes" : ["view"]
> },
> {
> "method": "DELETE",
> "scopes" : ["delete"]
> }
> ]
> },
> ```
>
> [1] https://github.com/pedroigor/keycloak/tree/KEYCLOAK-11300
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 1:44 PM Pedro Igor Silva <psilva(a)redhat.com>
> wrote:
>
> OK. I'm going to write something and give to you ...
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 1:41 PM Sushil Singh <sushil.singh(a)guavus.com>
> wrote:
>
> @Pedro Igor Silva <psilva(a)redhat.com>
>
> Can you suggest pseudo flow what you are trying to say
>
> It will be good for me to understand how it can be achieved using
> AuthorizationContext .
>
> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Pedro Igor Silva <psilva(a)redhat.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, November 11, 2019 10:05:06 PM
> *To:* keycloak-dev <keycloak-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>; Sushil Singh <
> sushil.singh(a)guavus.com>
> *Subject:* Custom Policy Enforcer
>
> Hi,
>
> We have started some discussions about a custom policy enforcer at
> https://github.com/keycloak/keycloak/pull/6448.
>
> For those interested in how to programmatically enforce permissions,
> please look at that PR and discussions that should start to happen here.
>
> @Sushil Singh <sushil.singh(a)guavus.com>, If the idea is to expose the PE
> functionality so that you can programmatically get the same behavior to
> when requests are processed, I think we can still make it through the
> `AuthorizationContex` interface.
>
> In fact, the code won't change much from what you did so we basically
> encapsulate the call to the actual policy enforcer.
>
> Regards.
> Pedro Igor
>
>
6 years, 1 month
Re: [keycloak-dev] Custom Policy Enforcer
by Pedro Igor Silva
Here is a scratch [1]. But I'm not fully convinced about the changes you
are proposing. Maybe what is missing is an example of how this will be used
in practice.
Isn't that the same thing as configuring a path like this?
```
{
"path" : "/someUri/*",
"methods" : [
{
"method": "GET",
"scopes" : ["view"]
},
{
"method": "DELETE",
"scopes" : ["delete"]
}
]
},
```
[1] https://github.com/pedroigor/keycloak/tree/KEYCLOAK-11300
On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 1:44 PM Pedro Igor Silva <psilva(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> OK. I'm going to write something and give to you ...
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 1:41 PM Sushil Singh <sushil.singh(a)guavus.com>
> wrote:
>
>> @Pedro Igor Silva <psilva(a)redhat.com>
>>
>> Can you suggest pseudo flow what you are trying to say
>>
>> It will be good for me to understand how it can be achieved using
>> AuthorizationContext .
>>
>> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Pedro Igor Silva <psilva(a)redhat.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 11, 2019 10:05:06 PM
>> *To:* keycloak-dev <keycloak-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>; Sushil Singh <
>> sushil.singh(a)guavus.com>
>> *Subject:* Custom Policy Enforcer
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We have started some discussions about a custom policy enforcer at
>> https://github.com/keycloak/keycloak/pull/6448.
>>
>> For those interested in how to programmatically enforce permissions,
>> please look at that PR and discussions that should start to happen here.
>>
>> @Sushil Singh <sushil.singh(a)guavus.com>, If the idea is to expose the PE
>> functionality so that you can programmatically get the same behavior to
>> when requests are processed, I think we can still make it through the
>> `AuthorizationContex` interface.
>>
>> In fact, the code won't change much from what you did so we basically
>> encapsulate the call to the actual policy enforcer.
>>
>> Regards.
>> Pedro Igor
>>
>
6 years, 1 month
