I also
realised that "Application Type" drowndown for Internal/Third-party is a
bit confusing. It's not really an application type if app is internal or
third-party.
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 09:17, Stian Thorgersen <sthorger(a)redhat.com> wrote:
Okay, so I'll try to summarise this to see if we are all in
agreement.
Let's use
https://marvelapp.com/c90dfi0/screen/59942292 as a reference as
that shows how it will look like in the UI.
This shows applications that are in-use and also applications that are not
in-use. The latter is the one we've been discussing on how to filter all
clients down time available not-in-use applications. More on that later.
Further, it shows internal and third-party (consent required)
applications. With an option to remove access to third party applications.
It is missing applications with offline access. I suggest we add a filter
"Offline app only" next to "In-use app only", and to differentiate
between
apps in-use and apps with offline access we could set "Offline access"
where it says "In-use" for regular apps. Same as third-party apps with
would have a "Remove access" button in the expanded view.
To advertise applications on the account console we'd add an option to the
client in admin console "Always view in account console" (not visible on
bearer-only clients).
Now the list of clients to include in this page would be:
* All applications from current open sessions, including offline sessions
* All applications with granted consents to the user (a third-party app
can have a persisted consent, but not currently be in use, so this needs to
be displayed)
* All applications that have the "Always view in account console" option
enabled
On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 20:43, Marek Posolda <mposolda(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> On 09. 10. 19 11:33, Stian Thorgersen wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 14:59, Marek Posolda <mposolda(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> On 08. 10. 19 7:54, Stian Thorgersen wrote:
>>
>> Ok, I wasn't aware that the old console was able to list applications
>> the user is not currently using. Testing it out I can see now it does
>> indeed do that, but that it is broken as it lists a lot of irrelevant
>> clients.
>>
>> What it should list is:
>>
>> 1. Applications currently in use - this will be any application
>> registered in the session (third party apps need an option to revoke
>> access, which will remove the granted consents)
>> 2. Applications with offline access (these need to somehow be
>> differentiated from the above and have an option to revoke access, which
>> will remove the offline session)
>> 3. Applications that are actual web applications and that are available
>> to the user
>>
>> What we need to discuss is what to do in step 3. It is clear to me that
>> the logic in the old console is not working correctly, so we need a better
>> approach. What users need is the ability to discover applications they can
>> access from the account console, that means it should be web applications
>> with a baseUrl so there can be a link to open the application. It should
>> not list applications just because they require consent or just because
>> they can get an offline token, because that doesn't mean a user can
>> actually start using them. Further, it should be possible for a admin to
>> control what applications are listed there, which they can do based on what
>> applications users have access to and have a baseUrl set on them.
>>
>> So assuming there are those two groups of clients:
>>
>> (a) clients, which already has consent or offline access
>>
>> (b) clients, which can get consent or offline access
>>
> Not quite. The groups are:
>
> (a) clients that are already in use
> (b) clients that have consent
> (c) clients that have offline access
> (d) clients that are web applications and the user can access (i.e.
> account service can link to the app and the user can actually use the app)
>
> clients should not be listed just because they can get consent or offline
> access, those should only be listed if they fall in (d)
>
> Yes, there are more groups. For that particular case I wanted to clarify,
> I used just 2 groups for simplification. Basically clients, which can have
> stuff (consent or offline token) and clients, which already have stuff
> (consent or offline token).
>
> I think that we're in agreement that clients from group (a) with already
>> available stuff should be displayed in new account console? As there should
>> be a way for the user to "Revoke" the consent or offline access and
new
>> access console doesn't have any other place where to revoke this.
>>
> Yes, would have to be here
>
>> The reason why I suggest to list also all clients from group (b) is some
>> potential usability concern. For example assume you have client, which has
>> active offline token, but it hasn't any roles (for example because this
>> client doesn't use RBAC). Now what will happen is:
>>
>> - User clicks "Revoke" on client.
>>
>> - Client will disappear from the new account console because user
>> doesn't have any roles for this client and this client doesn't have
active
>> offline token now.
>>
>> My question is, isn't it confusing from UX perspective that some clients
>> will disappear from the UI when you click "Revoke" button? Just some
>> clients will disappear, because clients with any permission/role available
>> won't disappear.
>>
>> Or is it an option that clients won't disappear right-away after click
>> "Revoke", but after page refresh? This would mean that after click
"Revoke"
>> button, UI can't send another REST request to obtain fresh list of clients
>> (as that would cause client to disappear).
>>
> That is the expected behaviour, and would not be confusing. Try doing it
> to GitHub, Google, etc. once you have removed access/consent the client is
> removed from the list.
>
> Ok, thanks.
>
> That's something I wanted to clarify as it seemed to me a bit confusing
> regarding user experience. But apparently, it is not.
>
>
>> I like the idea of using (user has permission for at least one role with
>> any client scope) instead of (user has one role) as front-end clients like
>> SPA type apps won't use any client roles, and it also works when realm
>> roles are used.
>>
>> Yes, I agree regarding frontend clients.
>>
>> Besides that, one of the original reasons for the condition (user has
>> permission for at least one role with any client scope) is, that it matches
>> clients with the role scope to "offline_access" role when
"offline_access"
>> client scope is used. Some time ago, we discussed removing
"offline_access"
>> role. This will makes sense now when we have client scopes and
>> "offline_access" client scope.
>>
>> But until "offline_access" role is removed, almost all clients in the
>> realm will be displayed if we use that condition. I am not sure if this is
>> what we want or not (Depends on what we agree regarding the UX concern I
>> had in previous paragraph).
>>
>>
>> I'm concerned with the approach you (Marek) listed with regards to
>> client scope. Iterating through every client and
>> calling TokenManager.getAccess is going to be incredibly expensive, so is
>> not an option, even with pagination. If you do that with pagination we'd
>> need to fetch 10 clients, run TokenManager.getAccess, find 1 client with
>> access, then continue until we've built enough for a single page. It has to
>> be something that we can actually query directly somehow, but that is
>> difficult with groups and composite roles.
>>
>> The performance of TokenManager.getAccess is possibly not so bad. I did
>> some improvement in this part last year during work on client scopes. Most
>> of the things don't need DB query as all entities (clients, client scopes,
>> groups, roles, users) are cached together with their "direct" role
>> memberships in the local infinispan cache. However for deployments with
>> thousands of roles or clients, it could be tricky...
>>
> What about if there are 10K clients?
>
> Yep, I know. See the last sentence from the last paragraph I mentioned :)
>
> Nobody yet reported any performance issue against old account console
> "Applications" tab. I don't know how much people really has
deployments
> with thousands of roles or clients... But we need to count with the fact,
> that somebody will have such use-case.
>
> Marek
>
> Thing is, that AFAIK nobody yet (surprisingly) reported any performance
>> issue with the "Applications" tab in the old account console even if
it
>> doesn't have pagination. Maybe it is because people don't use old
account
>> console :) But who knows...
>>
>> Stan suggested to wait for feedback before doing pagination. I agree
>> with that.
>>
>> Marek
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 21:51, Marek Posolda <mposolda(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 07. 10. 19 18:09, Stian Thorgersen wrote:
>>>
>>> Marek -
>>>
>>> One big difference between the new and the old console is that the old
>>> console only listed applications the user was currently logged-in to
>>> (basically it was listed in a session, offline or regular). The new console
>>> also lists applications that are available to the user to log-in to.
>>>
>>> No, the old account console doesn't list only applications the user is
>>> currently logged-in to. It also lists all the applications available to the
>>> user.
>>>
>>> The old account console basically shows all the clients, which matches
>>> this pseudo-condition:
>>>
>>> (client is NOT bearer-only && (client has consent required || (user
has
>>> permission for at least one role with any client scope)))
>>>
>>> The last sub-condition is a bit tricky, but simply said, all the
>>> clients, which are allowed to retrieve offline token are listed in the old
>>> console. Which are defacto almost all clients, which are not bearer-only.
>>>
>>> My point is, that new account console doesn't have any separate page to
>>> manage offline tokens, is it correct? So the "Applications" page of
new
>>> account console will be still used to revoke offline tokens and consents,
>>> right? In that case, the new account console should display all the
>>> clients, for which user can obtain consent or offline token. And offline
>>> token can by default be retrieved for almost every client in the realm,
>>> which is not bearer-only. Which would mean that filtering won't help to
>>> filter too much clients. Hence I guess pagination might be probably needed.
>>>
>>> Marek
>>>
>>>
>>> The new console should list applications within a session in the same
>>> way as it is done in the old console - although not sure removing
>>> bearer-only is correct. For regular sessions only apps that can do a login
>>> is registered in the session, for offline sessions the client should be
>>> listed regardless of its type.
>>>
>>> What we've been discussing here is what is the list of applications
>>> available to a user, but that are not part of the session. What you are
>>> suggesting doesn't make all that much sense to me in this context.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 16:24, Bruno Oliveira <bruno(a)abstractj.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just talked with Stian this morning and we agreed on:
>>>>
>>>> 1. It's mandatory that Option 1 becomes part version of the New
>>>> Account Console. The current Jira was updated
>>>>
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/KEYCLOAK-5628 to reflect such
>>>> requirement.
>>>>
>>>> 2 Filtering and pagination can be postponed for future releases. Jiras
>>>> to follow up on this are here:
>>>> -
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/KEYCLOAK-11534
>>>> -
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/KEYCLOAK-11677
>>>>
>>>> If we are all aboard with this, I think we should move on. Otherwise,
>>>> please let us know.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 1:35 PM Marek Posolda <mposolda(a)redhat.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > On 04. 10. 19 16:41, Stan Silvert wrote:
>>>> > > On 10/4/2019 10:16 AM, Stian Thorgersen wrote:
>>>> > >> Okay, so I've re-read and we're on the same page I
believe. Sorry
>>>> for
>>>> > >> that (trying to do to many things with too little time).
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Option 1 limiting the list to real apps/UIs and those the
user has
>>>> > >> access to is what we should do since you are on board with
this.
>>>> > >> Option 2 can then be dropped completely as it was just a
quicker
>>>> > >> temporary solution.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> To limit to real apps in addition to what I listed before I
would
>>>> also
>>>> > >> only include apps that have a display name set.
>>>> > > Ideally, we should have a flag for this. I don't like the
idea
>>>> that we
>>>> > > have to rely on the administrator to understand that a display
name
>>>> > > being blank in admin console conveys a certain meaning in
account
>>>> console.
>>>> > >> To limit apps that users have access to. Thinking about
this some
>>>> more
>>>> > >> and the ideal I think would be to only list apps where user
has at
>>>> > >> least one client role. That may be a bit tricky though,
but
>>>> perhaps a
>>>> > >> smart query could solve that? I'm open to other ideas
here for
>>>> sure
>>>> > >> though.
>>>> > > I think an approach like that would work. It would be helpful
to
>>>> an
>>>> > > admin if there was something in the admin console that did
this
>>>> query
>>>> > > and showed explicitly which applications a given user has
access
>>>> to.
>>>> >
>>>> > BTV. Some similar filtering is already done in the old account
>>>> console.
>>>> >
>>>> > It filtered the "bearerOnly" clients, but it didn't
filter clients
>>>> > without baseURL . I think that baseUrl is not mandatory field for
>>>> > clients and IMO many clients don't have it configured, so not
sure
>>>> > whether to filter based on that...
>>>> >
>>>> > In addition to that you need always display clients with
>>>> offline-access
>>>> > and with granted consent. The old account console allowed on the
>>>> > "Applications" page to see and revoke granted consents of
clients
>>>> and it
>>>> > also allowed to see and revoke granted offline tokens. So if new
>>>> account
>>>> > console doesn't have any other place to view/revoke the consents
and
>>>> > offline tokens, it should be provided on this page.
>>>> >
>>>> > However if you filter to see just clients with any client role +
>>>> clients
>>>> > with offline-access and granted consent, it may create interesting
>>>> > situations. For example imagine there is client, which doesn't
have
>>>> any
>>>> > client roles, but it has consent granted or offline token granted.
>>>> Now
>>>> > user clicks the "revoke consent" (or "revoke offline
token") button.
>>>> > This will cause that client will disappear from the UI because it
>>>> > doesn't have any client roles and it doesn't have any
consent or
>>>> offline
>>>> > access. This seems to me like quite confusing behaviour regarding
UX?
>>>> > Also it will affect pagination results etc...
>>>> >
>>>> > With regards to this, I wonder if filtering shouldn't be the
same as
>>>> it
>>>> > was in old account console? This was that client with
consentRequired
>>>> > were always included and clients with ANY role in the token for any
>>>> > client scope were always included. The details are here:
>>>> >
>>>>
https://github.com/keycloak/keycloak/blob/master/services/src/main/java/o...
>>>> >
>>>> > It is quite complex to compute if client has permission to see any
>>>> > single role. You need to make composite roles into account etc.
Hence
>>>> > there is call to TokenManager.getAccess . The performance of this
is
>>>> not
>>>> > very great, however if you have pagination with showing only 10
>>>> clients
>>>> > per page, it should be just fine to use this IMO.
>>>> >
>>>> > In shortcut: I suggest to use exactly same filtering as done by old
>>>> > account console. but add pagination support to it (which wasn't
>>>> provided
>>>> > by old account console). Or alternatively, if new account console
has
>>>> > separate page to manage offline tokens (which it maybe should
have?)
>>>> > then filtering can be done to display clients that:
>>>> >
>>>> > are NOT bearerOnly && (have consentRequired OR have any
client role
>>>> > available).
>>>> >
>>>> > By "client role available", you may still need to consider
composite
>>>> > roles, all possible client scopes etc, so the call to
>>>> > "TokenManager.getAccess" will be still needed.
>>>> >
>>>> > Marek
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >> On Fri, 4 Oct 2019, 16:10 Stian Thorgersen,
<sthorger(a)redhat.com
>>>> > >> <mailto:sthorger@redhat.com>> wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> My bad. I was thinking about comment 1, 2 and 3 from
my
>>>> first reply.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Let me re-read the whole thing again ;)
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> On Fri, 4 Oct 2019, 15:42 Bruno Oliveira, <
>>>> bruno(a)abstractj.org
>>>> > >> <mailto:bruno@abstractj.org>> wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> My comments were pretty much based on the items
you
>>>> mentioned:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> > 1) Limit the list to clients that are
applications and
>>>> that
>>>> > >> the user has access to (I suggested a fairly
simple
>>>> approach,
>>>> > >> which I believe should work)
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> That wouldn't list the clients regardless if
the user has
>>>> > >> access to
>>>> > >> them or not. So I'm not sure where the
security issue is.
>>>> > >> Unless I'm
>>>> > >> missing something.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> > 2) Only list clients from active sessions -
then add a
>>>> > >> follow-up for 1
>>>> > >> at some point in the future
>>>> > >> Yes, that's possible, but as you mentioned
something to
>>>> postpone
>>>> > >> unless badly needed. If we keep increasing the
scope of
>>>> what
>>>> > >> we aim,
>>>> > >> this may become an endless task.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> So here are my questions:
>>>> > >> - Are we in agreement that #1 should be part of
our
>>>> > >> deliverable for
>>>> > >> the first release of the new account console and
#2
>>>> > >> implemented later?
>>>> > >> - If yes, are we ok about postponing
>>>> pagination/filtering?
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 10:24 AM Stian Thorgersen
>>>> > >> <sthorger(a)redhat.com
<mailto:sthorger@redhat.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> > We're not on the same page. #2 is
absolutely not
>>>> redundant
>>>> > >> with #1. It is both a security issue and a
usability
>>>> issue to
>>>> > >> list all applications regardless if the user has
access
>>>> to
>>>> > >> them or not.
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> > One more not devices page should not list
applications
>>>> with
>>>> > >> offline access (offline sessions) those should be
on app
>>>> page
>>>> > >> (or a separate place?!?)
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> > On Fri, 4 Oct 2019, 14:49 Bruno Oliveira,
>>>> > >> <bruno(a)abstractj.org
<mailto:bruno@abstractj.org>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >> I believe that we're all in agreement
that we don't
>>>> need
>>>> > >> pagination
>>>> > >> >> for the Applications endpoint.
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >> And I have the same impression as Stan,
#1 makes
>>>> perfect
>>>> > >> sense and
>>>> > >> >> once it's done should make #2
redundant. If we are on
>>>> the
>>>> > >> same page
>>>> > >> >> about this, I can update
>>>> > >> >>
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/KEYCLOAK-5628.
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >> Another question is: assuming that we
implement #1.
>>>> Do we
>>>> > >> still need
>>>> > >> >> filtering (
>>>>
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/KEYCLOAK-11534)?
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 8:59 AM Stian
Thorgersen
>>>> > >> <sthorger(a)redhat.com
<mailto:sthorger@redhat.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >> >> >
>>>> > >> >> > You can not have an application page
in the new
>>>> account
>>>> > >> console that lists every client there is in a
realm. As
>>>> I said
>>>> > >> a large portion of those will not be actual
>>>> applications, and
>>>> > >> a portion will be applications that the user does
not
>>>> have
>>>> > >> access to.
>>>> > >> >> >
>>>> > >> >> > There's really two choices
here:
>>>> > >> >> >
>>>> > >> >> > 1) Limit the list to clients that
are actually
>>>> > >> applications and that the user has access to (I
>>>> suggested a
>>>> > >> fairly simple approach, which I believe should
work)
>>>> > >> >> > 2) Only list clients from active
sessions - then
>>>> add a
>>>> > >> follow-up for 1 at some point in the future
>>>> > >> >> >
>>>> > >> >> > My preference here would be 1 for
sure as if this
>>>> is done
>>>> > >> right it would be a good value add for users to
have a
>>>> place
>>>> > >> to discover available applications.
>>>> > >> >> >
>>>> > >> >> > On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 11:54, Bruno
Oliveira
>>>> > >> <bruno(a)abstractj.org
<mailto:bruno@abstractj.org>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >> >> >>
>>>> > >> >> >> On 2019-10-03, Stian Thorgersen
wrote:
>>>> > >> >> >> > Simply returning all
clients is not going to
>>>> work for
>>>> > >> a few reasons:
>>>> > >> >> >> >
>>>> > >> >> >> > * It will return clients
that are not
>>>> applications/UIs
>>>> > >> >> >> > * It can return
applications the user doesn't
>>>> have
>>>> > >> access to
>>>> > >> >> >> > * There can be thousands
(in fact we know about
>>>> users
>>>> > >> with 10K+ clients)
>>>> > >> >> >> >
>>>> > >> >> >> > That means we need the
following:
>>>> > >> >> >> >
>>>> > >> >> >> > 1) Limit clients returned
by the REST endpoint
>>>> to only
>>>> > >> those that are
>>>> > >> >> >> > indeed applications/UIs
>>>> > >> >> >>
>>>> > >> >> >> That makes sense, at the same
time, not part of our
>>>> > >> requirements into the
>>>> > >> >> >> Jira:
>>>>
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/KEYCLOAK-5628.
>>>> > >> >> >>
>>>> > >> >> >> Doug is working on it, and if
there's anything
>>>> that has
>>>> > >> to change, I'd
>>>> > >> >> >> suggest we bring this up in the
same Jira.
>>>> > >> >> >>
>>>> > >> >> >> > 2) Limit applications to
those the user has
>>>> access to
>>>> > >> >> >>
>>>> > >> >> >> Same as my previous comment
>>>> > >> >> >>
>>>> > >> >> >> > 3) Support filtering and
pagination (even though
>>>> 1 and
>>>> > >> 2 most likely will
>>>> > >> >> >> > significantly reduce the
number of applications
>>>> to 10s
>>>> > >> of applications, we
>>>> > >> >> >> > still need to have
pagination and filtering
>>>> support)
>>>> > >> >> >>
>>>> > >> >> >> We have a Jira for filtering,
but not for
>>>> pagination.
>>>> > >> >> >> See:
>>>>
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/KEYCLOAK-11534. But
>>>> > >> if you think
>>>> > >> >> >> pagination should also be a part
of it, please let
>>>> us
>>>> > >> know. Just keep in
>>>> > >> >> >> mind that this is not part of
our plans at the
>>>> moment.
>>>> > >> >> >>
>>>> > >> >> >> Do you really think we need to
implement
>>>> pagination for
>>>> > >> Applications
>>>> > >> >> >> endpoint right now? Based on the
requirements you
>>>> > >> described, I don't see
>>>> > >> >> >> a user with 2000 applications.
Just look at how
>>>> many
>>>> > >> applications you
>>>> > >> >> >> have linked into your GH or FB
profile.
>>>> > >> >> >>
>>>> > >> >> >> Maybe this is something we could
postpone? Unless
>>>> I'm
>>>> > >> missing something,
>>>> > >> >> >> I don't see a real need to
do it right now.
>>>> > >> >> >
>>>> > >> >> >
>>>> > >> >> > If you do 1 or 2 the list of
applications available
>>>> to
>>>> > >> any given user will be reduced significantly, so
I'm
>>>> fairly
>>>> > >> confident that pagination/filtering on the
server-side
>>>> can be
>>>> > >> postponed in that case.
>>>> > >> >> >
>>>> > >> >> >>
>>>> > >> >> >>
>>>> > >> >> >> >
>>>> > >> >> >> > Some ideas on how we can
achieve the above:
>>>> > >> >> >> >
>>>> > >> >> >> > 1) Figuring out what is
indeed applications/UIs
>>>> > >> >> >> >
>>>> > >> >> >> > List applications that are
added to open
>>>> sessions,
>>>> > >> including the below:
>>>> > >> >> >> >
>>>> > >> >> >> > * All OIDC clients where:
client.baseUrl != null
>>>> &&
>>>> > >> !client.bearerOnly
>>>> > >> >> >> > * All SAML clients where:
client.baseUrl !=
>>>> null**
>>>> > >> >> >> >
>>>> > >> >> >> > This will make sure we only
include applications
>>>> where
>>>> > >> the user can
>>>> > >> >> >> > actually click on the
application in the list to
>>>> go to
>>>> > >> the application.
>>>> > >> >> >> >
>>>> > >> >> >> > ** Not sure if there's
anything in addition to
>>>> check
>>>> > >> for SAML
>>>> > >> >> >> >
>>>> > >> >> >> > 2) Limit applications to
those the user has
>>>> access to
>>>> > >> >> >> >
>>>> > >> >> >> > Not sure about this one as
we don't really have
>>>> an
>>>> > >> easy way to figure out
>>>> > >> >> >> > if a user has access the an
application or not.
>>>> One
>>>> > >> idea would be to only
>>>> > >> >> >> > include clients where user
has at least one
>>>> client
>>>> > >> role. Even if the
>>>> > >> >> >> > application doesn't use
client roles directly a
>>>> > >> "dummy" role can be created
>>>> > >> >> >> > for this purpose by
admins/developers.
>>>> > >> >> >> >
>>>> > >> >> >> > 3) Pagination and
filtering
>>>> > >> >> >> >
>>>> > >> >> >> > All endpoints should
support pagination and
>>>> filtering
>>>> > >> by design. Pagination
>>>> > >> >> >> > and filtering should be
server-side (REST
>>>> endpoint
>>>> > >> should provide according
>>>> > >> >> >> > to our REST guidelines).
>>>> > >> >> >>
>>>> > >> >> >> +1 for most of the ideas, except
for implementing
>>>> > >> pagination right now.
>>>> > >> >> >>
>>>> > >> >> >> >
>>>> > >> >> >> > On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at
19:11, Stan Silvert
>>>> > >> <ssilvert(a)redhat.com
<mailto:ssilvert@redhat.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >> >> >> >
>>>> > >> >> >> > > Specifically, we need
to discuss filtering and
>>>> > >> pagination as it relates
>>>> > >> >> >> > > to the
"Applications" page:
>>>> > >> >> >> > >
>>>> > >> >> >> > >
https://marvelapp.com/c90dfi0/screen/59942290
>>>> > >> >> >> > >
>>>> > >> >> >> > > The current design
allows filtering by name and
>>>> > >> application type.
>>>> > >> >> >> > >
>>>> > >> >> >> > > However, Stian has
pointed out that some
>>>> customers
>>>> > >> will have thousands
>>>> > >> >> >> > > of clients. So this
design might be
>>>> unworkable.
>>>> > >> >> >> > >
>>>> > >> >> >> > > I don't want to go
too far into the weeds
>>>> right now
>>>> > >> because I want to
>>>> > >> >> >> > > understand the problem
better first.
>>>> > >> >> >> > >
>>>> > >> >> >> > > What is the use case
when customers have many,
>>>> many
>>>> > >> clients?
>>>> > >> >> >> > >
>>>> > >> >> >> > > How common is it to
have many, many clients
>>>> for a
>>>> > >> single user?
>>>> > >> >> >> > >
>>>> > >> >> >> > > What do those clients
look like?
>>>> > >> >> >> > >
>>>> > >> >> >> > > What could we use to
filter on? The
>>>> information we
>>>> > >> currently have on
>>>> > >> >> >> > > the client side looks
something like what you
>>>> see here:
>>>> > >> >> >> > >
>>>> > >> >> >> > >
https://marvelapp.com/c90dfi0/screen/59942292
>>>> > >> >> >> > >
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