Re: [keycloak-dev] changes to admin ui login/bootstrap

From: "Stian Thorgersen" <stian(a)redhat.com&gt; To: "Bill Burke" <bburke(a)redhat.com&gt; Cc: keycloak-dev(a)lists.jboss.org Sent: Thursday, 17 October, 2013 9:42:04 AM Subject: Re: [keycloak-dev] changes to admin ui login/bootstrap I strongly feel this is a mistake. We need to find a way to make the admin console use Keycloak without any hacks. In my opinion the admin console should use keycloak.js as it's a client-side application. For client-side applications the credentials should be public so can just be pre-configured to a well-known string. Safety of client-side applications are provided by two things: firstly the application credentials themselves don't give you any privileges, secondly the redirect uri should be verified by Keycloak preventing unauthorized use of the credentials. If we can't come up with a good and safe approach to using Keycloak with HTML5 and mobile applications the project is a huge fail! If we're not using it directly ourselves for our HTML5 console that doesn't sound right to me. ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Burke" <bburke(a)redhat.com&gt; > To: keycloak-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > Sent: Wednesday, 16 October, 2013 2:22:10 PM > Subject: [keycloak-dev] changes to admin ui login/bootstrap > > There are some changes on how Keycloak Admin UI is bootstrapped: > > * There is no longer a registration page for the admin ui. > * There is a built in user > username: admin > password: admin > * There is a built in realm "Keycloak Adminstration" > * This realm has a built in application "Admin Console" with one role: > "admin" > * You can add additional users to the "Keycloak Adminstration" realm. > They must add an Admin Consle "admin" role to be able to log into the > admin UI. > > Eventually, the bootstrap will require a "password update" for this > built-in "admin" user. There's a bug in the admin UI login on the > server side that I haven't figured out yet. I'll ping the list when this > is ready. > > Going forward, the admin REST interfaces/admin UI will *NOT* use the > token service. We can't use the token service out of the box for the > admin UI/REST interfaces because this would require specifying the > Application password for the "Admin Console" and enabling it through the > UI. For usability, IMO, it is best that the user doesn't have to do this. > > You will still be able to use the Token Service's OAuth flow to obtain > an access token. The admin REST interface should support bearer token > access, although I haven't written any tests for it yet. > > BTW, the "Admin Console" application has a random, large, password > generated for it at bootstrap. A side effect is that this password is > never known. We need to generate a random, unknown password for this to > avoid a security hole and to keep the nice usability. Hope I make sense > here. :) > > > -- > Bill Burke > JBoss, a division of Red Hat > http://bill.burkecentral.com > _______________________________________________ > keycloak-dev mailing list > keycloak-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/keycloak-dev > _______________________________________________ keycloak-dev mailing list keycloak-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/keycloak-dev