Thanks Vlastimil, this might be a good option for a transitional phase.
I have created the feature request “KEYCLOAK-2141: The uniqueness of the email address
should be configurable”. Concerning the contribution I would like to check our capacity,
this might be a valid option. Therefor I propose to shift the discussion about the
contribution out of this mailing list. Let´s have a deeper discussion after you have
checked the feature request.
Thanks a lot,
Sebastian
From: Vlastimil Elias [mailto:velias@redhat.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 3:02 PM
To: Sebastian Olscher
Cc: keycloak-user(a)lists.jboss.org
Subject: Re: [keycloak-user] Email is unique within one realm
Hi Sebastian,
small hint out of Keycloak. Some email servers (eg gmail) allows you to use email
addresses with unresolved part after + sign, like
sebastian.olscher+something@traveltainment.de<mailto:sebastian.olscher+something@traveltainment.de>.
Emails for this kind of address are delivered to "base" email
sebastian.olscher@traveltainment.de<mailto:sebastian.olscher@traveltainment.de>
then. This may help you create more accounts with different emails delivered to same
person.
If your email server doesn't support this "dynamic" aliasing then it
probably supports some "static" aliases defined by admin.
Vl.
From: Stian Thorgersen [mailto:sthorger@redhat.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 1:13 PM
To: Sebastian Olscher
Cc: keycloak-user(a)lists.jboss.org
Subject: Re: [keycloak-user] Email is unique within one realm
On 26 November 2015 at 12:18, Sebastian Olscher
<sebastian.olscher@traveltainment.de<mailto:sebastian.olscher@traveltainment.de>>
wrote:
Unfortunately this would also not solve the original issue: we are handling these accounts
like all other accounts and using standard Keycloak features which all bases on the email
address. Would it be a smaller effort to handle this check on software level? You can
configure the uniqueness of the email address in each realm, check this on software level
and delete the unique index in the database. Would that be manageable?
We can't guarantee that a email is unique without a constraint, as otherwise
there's always a window where duplicates could be added. We can't remove the
constraint either as the constraint applies to all realms, but further we can't change
the db schema based on configuration options on a realm.
We would need to have a separate field in the db for non-unique email addresses.
That's not really a big problem I think, but it would still be a fair bit of work to
implement. We'd also need to have an option on a realm on what attribute to use as
username, options should be username/email, username or email.
You can add a feature request, but ATM we're stretched rather thin so it would be a
while until we could implement it. Unless you are willing to contribute it though? If you
are then we should discuss how it should be done, and also need to double check if
there's any problems in adding it.
“Email address unique or not?” – I have found a similar discussion and a recommendation in
the OpenId-Connect-Spezification:
“Therefore, the only guaranteed unique identifier for a given End-User is the combination
of the iss Claim and the sub Claim.
All other Claims carry no such guarantees across different issuers in terms of stability
over time or uniqueness across users, and Issuers are permitted to apply local
restrictions and policies. For instance, an Issuer MAY re-use an email Claim Value across
different End-Users at different points in time, and the claimed email address for a given
End-User MAY change over time. Therefore, other Claims such as email, phone_number, and
preferred_username and MUST NOT be used as unique identifiers for the End-User. “
[OpenId-Connect Core Spzification 1.0 – 5.7 Calim
Stability and Uniqueness]
So, at this point, we have a local restriction of Keycloak which says that the email claim
has to be unique. This is absolutely compliant but as the example exactly describes the
email case, I think others were also dealing with this topic. Because of this, the
spezification recommends to make the email address not unique. What do you think, would
that be an option for a new feature?
From: Stian Thorgersen [mailto:sthorger@redhat.com<mailto:sthorger@redhat.com>]
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 8:58 AM
To: Sebastian Olscher
Cc: keycloak-user@lists.jboss.org<mailto:keycloak-user@lists.jboss.org>
Subject: Re: [keycloak-user] Email is unique within one realm
I meant that you'd use the attribute option only for the "server accounts"
where it's not the email of the user, but a contact email. For regular users you'd
continue using the email field. Would that work? You can even write a custom protocol
mapper that takes either and adds it to the same claim in the token.
The email field has a unique constraint in the database and that's not something we
can enable/disable with a realm option. I think we'd have to add an additional field
or store the email as an attribute. Could be a bit messy and quite a bit of work to do.
On 26 November 2015 at 08:29, Sebastian Olscher
<sebastian.olscher@traveltainment.de<mailto:sebastian.olscher@traveltainment.de>>
wrote:
Unfortunately this is not easily possible because we want to use out-of-the-box features
such as „update profile email”, „reset password email” and others, where Keycloak uses the
email address of the account.
As I understood the reason why the email address was designed as unique is that it could
be also used as the username. Would it be possible to implement this as a feature within
the realm config? You can configure if you want to allow the usage of the email address as
the username. If not, the email address has not to be unique. For us, this would make
totally sense and helps us to fulfill the requirement. Would that be possible if there are
no other preventing side effects?
From: Stian Thorgersen [mailto:sthorger@redhat.com<mailto:sthorger@redhat.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 8:31 PM
To: Sebastian Olscher
Cc: keycloak-user@lists.jboss.org<mailto:keycloak-user@lists.jboss.org>
Subject: Re: [keycloak-user] Email is unique within one realm
In that case could you just set the contact email address as an attribute instead? The
email field has to be unique has it can be in place of username. You could even use
protocol mappers to map either email or the attribute to the same claim in the token.
On 25 November 2015 at 15:57, Sebastian Olscher
<sebastian.olscher@traveltainment.de<mailto:sebastian.olscher@traveltainment.de>>
wrote:
This receives importance if we are talking about users which will be used by a system and
not a human person. These users may have the same responsible contact person as there is a
system using this account and no real human. The contact person is identified by the email
address. Our own specific information will be designed as user attributes.
For example:
Username: sys_customer1
Email address:
sebastian.olscher@traveltainment.de<mailto:sebastian.olscher@traveltainment.de>
(Email address of the contact person who is responsible for this user)
User attribute: Key=customer, Value=customer1
Username: sys_customer2
Email address:
sebastian.olscher@traveltainment.de<mailto:sebastian.olscher@traveltainment.de>
(Email address of the contact person who is responsible for this user)
User attribute: Key=customer, Value=customer2
From: Stian Thorgersen [mailto:sthorger@redhat.com<mailto:sthorger@redhat.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 3:04 PM
To: Sebastian Olscher
Cc: keycloak-user@lists.jboss.org<mailto:keycloak-user@lists.jboss.org>
Subject: Re: [keycloak-user] Email is unique within one realm
That's not possible at the moment. Out of curiosity why would you have two different
accounts for the same person?
On 25 November 2015 at 15:01, Sebastian Olscher
<sebastian.olscher@traveltainment.de<mailto:sebastian.olscher@traveltainment.de>>
wrote:
Hello,
the email address is unique within one realm. Is there a possibility to fulfill the
requirement to have different user (different usernames) for different applications within
one realm which were managed and used by the same person/entity?
For example:
Username: I_Am_An_Admin
Email: user@traveltainment.de<mailto:user@traveltainment.de>
(gets roles for every client within the realm)
Username: I_Am_A_Normal_User
Email: user@traveltainment.de<mailto:user@traveltainment.de>
(get roles from only one client within the realm)
Is this unambiguity of the email address configurable?
Thanks,
Sebastian
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