non-managed deployment cannot be testable ----------------------------------------- Key: ARQ-2185 URL: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ARQ-2185 Project: Arquillian Issue Type: Bug Components: core Affects Versions: 1.2.0.Final Environment: arquillian universe 1.2.0.1 wildfly 10 java 8 Reporter: kostd kostd I have uber-ear and wanna to ci some EE-integration tests on it My ear has two incarnations: prod and test. Test-ear contains productive modules + test-modules (+ arquillian auxiliary jars for Servlet 3 proto support). So I can`t deploy my ear per test nor per suite, only once per ci-build - in same build on same ear also runs drone ui-tests. i need not arq to manage my ear, so I set @Deployment(managed=false). The problem is tests are executing in RunAsClient-mode, but I need server-side mode! This is because of RunmodeUtils#isRunAsClient: {code} if (deployment != null) { runAsClient = deployment.getDescription().testable() ? false : true; runAsClient = deployment.isDeployed() ? runAsClient : true; // -- my ear not managed so not isDeployed() {code} I created my own DoNothingDeployer, but can`t override ClientDeployer nor ContainerDeployer. I tried to call deployment.deployed() before ClientTestExecuter#execute, but cannot understand event model so good enough -- either Instance<Deployment>#get() is null, or deployment.deployed() doesn`t affect at all. Maybe exists good doc (or javadoc) about arq event model? can`t find :'( Why can`t run server-side tests with not-managed deployment? Why in general we can`t run server-side tests without any @Deployment? We using @Drone-tests without @Deployment and it`s very good. We preparin` deployment through non-shrinkwrap way, so why we need to define non-useful @Deployment-method (or DeploymentScenarioGenerator)?