On 1/24/2014 9:33 AM, Stian Thorgersen wrote:
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> From: "Bill Burke" <bburke(a)redhat.com>
> To: keycloak-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> Sent: Friday, 24 January, 2014 2:16:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [keycloak-dev] Password resetting
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> On 1/24/2014 8:38 AM, Stian Thorgersen wrote:
>> To prevent hijacking the thread for planning what goes into the next
>> release, I'll start this new thread on this subject.
>>
>> For clarification, at the moment what we have with password reset is :
>>
>> Users:
>> * If realm allows it and user has registered email address they can click
>> on the recover password option. They then insert their username and an
>> email with a link is sent to them. This link will expire within a
>> configurable time (default is 10 min I think). The link will open a form
>> enabling the user to insert a new password.
>>
>> Admins:
>> * Admins can set a new temporary password on a user account. This will add
>> a flag that the user is required to reset the password on next login.
>> Currently the admin could remove this required action though, as admins
>> can add/remove required actions to an account
>>
>> Improvements to this flow would be good. It's not elegant that admin has to
>> manually create tmp password, and somehow communicate this to the user.
>> Also, as Bruno pointed out this would mean an admin could gain access to a
>> users account. Any other concerns?
>>
>
> The improvement I want is an email with a URL that contains a temporary
> token. User's acct status would be set to "update password", but they
> would not have to enter in their password, just a new one.
We have this already don't we? In the realm settings enable "Rest
password", then open the login page, now there's link for "Forgot
Username" and "Forgot Password".
I mean a button in the admin console which will change the status of the
user acct and also send an email to the user.
>
> I think you're right in that we still need the option for the admin to
> set up a temporary password.
>
>> With regards to admins being able to send recover email, I'm not sure I see
>> the point. Users can do this themselves if they want to. Also, the link in
>> the email expires within a relatively short timeout, so it would quite
>> likely be expired by the time a user reads it
>>
>> Stopping a compromised admin being able to access the account, I'm not sure
>> that would be feasible. Even if an admin can't set a tmp password, they
>> could for example change the email and get a recovery password email sent
>> to themselves. I also think a compromised admin account would mean we're
>> pretty screwed in any case, so is this really important?
>>
>> I don't understand how TOTP would work, can you explain.
>
> TOTP could work same way as above. Send an email, user is temporarily
> authenticated, but must reset totp key.
We have similar feature here. If TOTP is lost the admin would disable TOTP, then add a
required action to re-configure TOTP on next login.
>
> In the future, I'd like to have a "World of Warcraft" option. I
really
> like the way they do it as hacked user accounts were really common prior
> to 2-factor auth. To reset a password, you get an email. To reset TOTP
> you get a text to your phone. So, if your email account gets hacked
> (like mine was prior to enabling 2-factor auth), you're still safe.
Yes, we definitively needs more layers of defence. Would be great to have SMS/phone
options. We should also have options to enable password recovery questions (What's
your first car thing).
We can also enable support for OTP through email and sms
Yes. I forgot about user questions ("What's your first car?")...that's
something I've wanted to add too.
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