[hibernate-issues] [Hibernate-JIRA] Commented: (HHH-3808) Manual fetching of associations

[ http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH-3808?page=c... ] Ovidio Mallo commented on HHH-3808: ----------------------------------- Thanks for the feedbak, Shawn! It seems like we are really talking about different things. I like what you're suggesting and I think it would be nice if Hibernate had explicit support for that use case. What I want to do is loading the Bids collections for a given set of Items which I want to do in a single bulk load operation and I want Hibernate to load the Bids collections for exactly those Items (I already have the Items loaded by some other means). The problem with using Hibernate.initialize() or simply accessing the Bids collections is that Hibernate decides behind the scenes during lazy-loading on which Items the Bids collections are loaded, depending on whether you have configured batch fetching or subselect fetching in your global mapping file. While this is often fine, it doesn't always give you full control on the set of Items on which the Bids collections are loaded. With batch fetching you have the problem that the Bids may be loaded on too many Items and subselect fetching only performs ideally if you have loaded the Items on which you want to have the Bids loaded in the same query. IMHO, in more complex applications such global fetching strategies do not always perform ideally, especially in performance critical parts. So, in essence, what I want to do is simply to batch load the Bids collections (or other properties) on a user-defined set of Items. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/secure/Administrators.... - For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira