Explicit joins on unrelated classes ----------------------------------- Key: HHH-16 URL: http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH-16 Project: Hibernate Core Issue Type: New Feature Components: core Affects Versions: antlr-rework Environment: Any Reporter: David Lloyd Assignee: Steve Ebersole Fix For: antlr-rework It would be nice to be able to do explicit joins on unrelated classes with HQL: (hope this renders correctly) select empl, phone from org.example.Employee empl left outer join org.example.PhoneBook phone on phone.lastName = empl.lastName and phone.firstName = empl.firstName where empl.salaryGrade > 10 Note that this would also implicity solve HB-1089 because you could list join criteria that match what Hibernate would have chosen anyway (i.e., list a many-to-one relationship as a criteria explicitly). Syntactically this could be disambiguated from the existing join syntax because the token after "join" is a class name rather than a property name.