Antoine Reilles ( https://hibernate.atlassian.net/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?accountId=557058%... ) *commented* on HHH-15544 ( https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HHH-15544?atlOrigin=eyJpIjoiYzM5NT... ) Re: OrderColumn invalid value on add for LAZY entity ( https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HHH-15544?atlOrigin=eyJpIjoiYzM5NT... ) Now, I’m getting closer to what I have in my code: the rank column is declared as int and not Integer , and in sql, as rank int not null default 0, With this, I do have a value in the JPA test, and the ORM test fails Strangely in this test, I see the wrong value of rank used now: 1 instead of 0 , but no null value in the list. 0002-with-int-instead-of-Integer.patch ( https://hibernate.atlassian.net/secure/attachment/50063/50063_0002-with-i... ) ( https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HHH-15544#add-comment?atlOrigin=ey... ) Add Comment ( https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HHH-15544#add-comment?atlOrigin=ey... ) Get Jira notifications on your phone! Download the Jira Cloud app for Android ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.atlassian.android.jira.... ) or iOS ( https://itunes.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1006972087?pt=696495&ct=Em... ) This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v1001.0.0-SNAPSHOT#100207- sha1:1c92a42 )