Gavin King ( https://hibernate.atlassian.net/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?accountId=557058%... ) *commented* on HHH-15545 ( https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HHH-15545?atlOrigin=eyJpIjoiZTk0ZD... ) Re: @NotFound(Ignore) defaults to eager loading ( https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HHH-15545?atlOrigin=eyJpIjoiZTk0ZD... ) So I dunno, the situation here is pretty weird. There actually is one test that looks superficially like it exercises @NotFound on a collection, but it’s pretty weird case with a @OneToMany. (I really don’t see how @NotFound could possibly make sense for @OneToMany.) The test is JoinFormulaOneToManyNotIgnoreLazyFetchingTest which, despite its name, has nothing to of with @JoinFormula. And I can make this test pass just by using @OneToMany(fetch = FetchType.EAGER) instead of @NotFound , so it doesn’t look like a legit test for @NotFound at all! So, AFAICT, this test is just bogus, and should never have been pushed. The referenced issue in the test is https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HHH-12770 ( https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HHH-12770 ) , and it looks like it was written by a user and pushed by Vlad as part of this PR: https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-orm/pull/2459 ( https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-orm/pull/2459 ). Apart from that bogus-looking test, there’s no test for @NotFound on a collection. ( https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HHH-15545#add-comment?atlOrigin=ey... ) Add Comment ( https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HHH-15545#add-comment?atlOrigin=ey... ) Get Jira notifications on your phone! Download the Jira Cloud app for Android ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.atlassian.android.jira.... ) or iOS ( https://itunes.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1006972087?pt=696495&ct=Em... ) This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v1001.0.0-SNAPSHOT#100207- sha1:1c92a42 )