Hello All, Embedded containers offer some interesting issues with regards to logging. If the logging subsystem is present the container may attempt to configure logging via the logging subsystem. If logging has already been configured by the application starting the embedded container, this could cause errors if the log manager was not installed correctly. While just the first draft, I've created a design/requirements doc [1] on how this should likely work or what's expected. Please, especially those interested, have a look and let me know if I've missed something or I'm off base on anything. [1]: https://github.com/wildfly/wildfly-proposals/pull/28 [2]: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WFCORE-3205 -- James R. Perkins JBoss by Red Hat