11 a.m.
On 3/30/2016 10:50 AM, John Sanda wrote:
> On Mar 30, 2016, at 10:23 AM, Matt Wringe <mwringe(a)redhat.com
> <mailto:mwringe@redhat.com>> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jay Shaughnessy" <jshaughn(a)redhat.com
>> <mailto:jshaughn@redhat.com>>
>> To:hawkular-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto:hawkular-dev@lists.jboss.org>
>> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 10:59:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Hawkular-dev] using hawkular wildfly agent as a custom
>> java agent
>>
>>
>> I think we should limit ourselves to the Wildfly/EAP agent that
>> we're already
>> working on, as EAP hosted app monitoring/mgmt is our bread and
>> butter. Past
>
> Except this assumption is not necessarily correct. Hawkular, at least
> Hawkular-Metrics, is not only being used just for Wildfly/EAP monitoring.
>
> We are using Hawkular-Metrics in OpenShift
> (https://github.com/openshift/origin-metrics) and there are other
> potential integration points that are being looking into. If we only
> want to handle the Wildfly/EAP case, then we really need to take a
> good look and determine if these other integrations make sense or
> not. Otherwise we should really start to look beyond just Wildfly/EAP
> so that these integration can be handled better.
We are actively working on other integration efforts, so we definitely
need to look beyond WildFly/EAP.
What I'm cautioning against is trying to build all feeds ourselves. In
RHQ we used a lot of manpower to build and maintain a lot of agent
plugins. There is goodness in providing interfaces and infrastructure
that make integrating as easy as possible, and then trying to avoid
doing all of the integration work as well. This is the model that is
working for miq.
We have two things going on here, one is the team charter to provide
middleware mgmt via manageiq, using hawkular as the provider. We'll
need agents/feeds to hook up to hawkular to report inventory and metrics
which then make their way to miq. We've got the WFly/EAP agent and that
seems like the likely place to invest the most for MW mgmt. Then we've
got H Metrics, which to some degree has a life of its own. Certainly
the integrations with metrics are important and as I said before, I
think we're already doing the right things, and just like hawkular
overall, making integration easy is our biggest win because it will
allow others to build their own feeds.