[wildfly-dev] Re: Create a "get started" page on WildFly.org

So adding server provisioning to the web app archetype, which we should do anyway, and removing JSF and JPA, would fit the bill?

—E On 9 Aug 2023, at 15:17, Darran Lofthouse <darran.lofthouse(a)jboss.com&gt; wrote: Some of the aims I had with the archetype were: - Removing the need to install WildFly - Being able to have a new project running and in a container in less that 120 seconds (excluding maven download times) starting with just Java and Maven installed locally. - Eliminating any configuration of the application server just to get started. - Leaving the user with a local project that they can start their own development straight away without needing to unravel anything added they don't need. On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 3:10 PM Ranabir Chakraborty <rchakrab(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > Hello Jeff, > > A few years back at the time of WildFly 24, I have written an article > about "Getting started with WildFly"[1] which is currently on > opensource.com, Though we had several updates and also the same with jdk > and maven versions, but the content is still somewhat similar. Just from a > content point of view, maybe it can help us with a simple getting > started. Let me know if I can help with the content. > > [1] https://opensource.com/article/21/7/wildfly > ~ > *Ranabir Chakraborty* > Software Engineer (JBoss SET) > > <https://red.ht/sig> > > > On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 3:07 PM Jeff Mesnil <jmesnil(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> We are evaluating how we could improve the user experience for using >> WildFly and one of the idea is to create a « Get Started » page on >> wildfly.org that would be an entry point for users that wants to try >> WildFly. >> >> This would be useful not only for new users (that have no previous >> knowledge of WildFly) but also existing users to let them understand the >> more recent ways to use WildFly. >> >> The expectation for this page would be simple: >> >> * no knowledge of WildFly required >> * Few prerequisites: >> * Java & Maven installed >> * Few steps: >> * Step 1: create a Maven project (using WildFly archetypes, more on >> that below) >> * Step 2: run mvn package >> * Step 3: run ./targer/server/bin/standalone.sh >> * Step 4: verify the application is up and running >> * Next steps >> * the page should link to next logical steps after getting started >> with WildFly (eg deploy on Kubernetes, secure WildFly, etc.) >> >> This page would provide a good user experience and rely on the WildFly >> archetype to bootstrap all the « plumbing » that needs to be done to setup >> WildFly so that the users can focus on "their » code. >> >> We already have WildFly archetypes[1] but there are opportunities for a >> simpler one which focus on that user experience. >> Darran is already working on such one[2] that takes advantage of the >> wildfly-maven-plugin to provision WildFly so that everything is controlled >> from the project pom.xml >> >> Having a good archetype would also make sure that this "getting started" >> page is always up to date with the latest release of WildFly (as we update >> the archetype for every new release of WildFly). >> For a quick review of Darran’s PR[3], we are not far from being able to >> release it and build on top of it for this « get started » page. >> We can already start working on this page and create its shell while >> polishing up the archetype. >> >> What do you think? >> >> Best regards, >> jeff >> >> >> [1] https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.wildfly.archetype >> [2] https://issues.redhat.com/browse/WFLY-17651 >> [3] https://github.com/wildfly/wildfly-archetypes/pull/26 >> <https://github.com/wildfly/wildfly-archetypes/pull/26/commits/16a596b6d26... >> -- >> Jeff Mesnil >> Engineer @ Red Hat JBoss EAP >> http://jmesnil.net/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> wildfly-dev mailing list -- wildfly-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wildfly-dev-leave(a)lists.jboss.org >> Privacy Statement: https://www.redhat.com/en/about/privacy-policy >> List Archives: >> https://lists.jboss.org/archives/list/wildfly-dev@lists.jboss.org/message... >> > _______________________________________________ wildfly-dev mailing list -- wildfly-dev(a)lists.jboss.org To unsubscribe send an email to wildfly-dev-leave(a)lists.jboss.org Privacy Statement: https://www.redhat.com/en/about/privacy-policy List Archives: https://lists.jboss.org/archives/list/wildfly-dev@lists.jboss.org/message...