There is a problem with the new Java agent and MiQ. This problem is because the agent is no longer in WildFly's DMR tree of resources (because only WildFly subsystems are in the DMR tree). Look here: https://github.com/hawkular/hawkular-agent/blob/master/hawkular-javaagent... So when the agent (java or subsystem agent, doesn't matter) is monitoring EAP over the DMR management interface, that's the metadata it uses. You can see we inject two non-WildFly attributes (immutable and in-container) under the WildFly Server type. But these come from the agent - hence why you see: path: /subsystem=hawkular-wildfly-agent But when running this as a java agent, that resource doesn't exist - there is no agent subsystem anymore. So the immutable and in-container attributes end up not getting defined under the WildFly Server resource. The problem is MiQ looks for those attributes under WildFly Servers to determine if the agent is in immutable mode and if its running in a container. In effect, we are trying to inject under a WildFly Server resource completely unrelated information (immutable and in-container attributes) - those are related to the AGENT, not the WildFly Server itself (i.e. you won't see those two attributes if you use the jboss-cli under the root "/" resource). We probably should have had MiQ examine the AGENT resource for this (since "immutable" and "in container" are attributes on the agent, not the server). And we shouldn't define "immutable" and "in container" under the WildFly Server resource because that is depending on the fact that the agent is running as a subsystem. As a Java Agent, as you see, those attributes will never show any values because there is no agent subsystem. MiQ can look at the agent attributes because the agent itself exposes immutable and in-container (because they ARE actual properties the agent has) in inventory. Under the agent resource in inventory you will see these: https://github.com/hawkular/hawkular-agent/blob/master/hawkular-javaagent... Note that we DO expose immutable and in-container under the Agent JMX resource in inventory also - and it has the same resource name as the subsystem agent (the name as you will see it in inventory): https://github.com/hawkular/hawkular-agent/blob/master/hawkular-javaagent... Hence why I think the best/easiest thing to do is get MiQ to examine the attributes on the resource where they really belong (and we should remove them from the WildFly Server type). _______________________________________________ hawkular-dev mailing list hawkular-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hawkular-dev