James Perkins ( https://hibernate.atlassian.net/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?accountId=557058%... ) *commented* on HHH-17000 ( https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HHH-17000?atlOrigin=eyJpIjoiYzA1ZT... ) Re: Do not keep static references to log levels ( https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HHH-17000?atlOrigin=eyJpIjoiYzA1ZT... ) I’m not sure what we could do to make levels immutable really. The JBoss Log Manager is an extension of JUL so we’re tied to that. I can see arguments for using debug/trace levels at runtime. For example if they are seeing an issue they can’t explain, likely happening at random times, it could be useful to enable trace logging at runtime as restarting the JVM may cause the issue to go away. ( https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HHH-17000#add-comment?atlOrigin=ey... ) Add Comment ( https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HHH-17000#add-comment?atlOrigin=ey... ) Get Jira notifications on your phone! Download the Jira Cloud app for Android ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.atlassian.android.jira.... ) or iOS ( https://itunes.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1006972087?pt=696495&ct=Em... ) This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v1001.0.0-SNAPSHOT#100233- sha1:62cfdef )