Re: [jbossdeveloper] <repository /> on quickstarts pom.xml

From: "Pete Muir" <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; To: "Sande Gilda" <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; Cc: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <max.andersen(a)redhat.com&gt;, jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org, "Alexandre Porcelli" <alexandre.porcelli(a)gmail.com&gt;, "Tomas Repel" <trepel(a)redhat.com&gt;, "Nikoleta Ziakova" <nziakova(a)redhat.com&gt; Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 3:51:48 PM Subject: Re: [jbossdeveloper] <repository /> on quickstarts pom.xml Ideally sooner rather than later, but I think it’s too late for EAP 6.4 On 24 Nov 2014, at 20:15, Sande Gilda < sgilda(a)redhat.com > wrote: What is the timeline for this? Am I supposed to do this for the JBoss EAP 6.4 quickstarts or for the EAP 7 release? I think it will have a pretty big QE impact. Plus, this change not only impacts the quickstarts, but the documentation. On 11/17/2014 06:00 AM, Pete Muir wrote: Agreed, and it was this logic that led to us deciding to introduce the repo into the POM. On 11 Nov 2014, at 14:37, Alexandre Porcelli < alexandre.porcelli(a)gmail.com > wrote: Sorry for my late reply... I was on PTO (in fact I return tomorrow) First of all... I understand all the reasoning behind the issues that makes us avoid use maven central for our stuff, I'm also a seasoned developer with good expirience on maven config - so touch my settings.xml isn't a problem, or even change myself some POMs wouldn't be a problem too. So what's the problem? Simplicity (or lack of it)! If Ticketmonster is our `petclinic`, we should make it easy to build and deploy as spring's petclinic is... git clone; mvn clean install and done! Ticketmonster uses a default branch called "2.7.x-develop" (after cloning and I had to double check if I did anything wrong... I questioned myself if I cloned the right project; if i had changed branches accidently; and finally if 2.7.x was really the latest version); then I tried to build, no pom.xml on the root (fine, it was quick to find the real sources directory); finally I run the build (tried the innocent `mvn clean install`) - and got lots of error messages. You can arguee that I didn't follow the tutorial... and you're right! But how many developers are also skiping the tutorial and are trying to build the app directly? How many people we're loosing on this process? If we want to make our technology accessible to people, we should try to make it simple as possible... we should try to remove all barriers, and make our things as easy to consume as others are doing. btw: I was trying to use ticketmonster to record a demo of our UberFire based Web IDE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG4pqk2r70Q []s ___________________ Alexandre Porcelli F: +55 11 98159-9725 http://about.me/porcelli On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Rafael Benevides < benevides(a)redhat.com > wrote: We stopped at which repos should be included. Them in the other email thread I proposed to have a list of approved repos and its id, them QSTools can be used to update those repo definitions. On 10/31/14 15:07, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: Anything holding us back for doing it for quick starts and ticketmonster? I feel we had this discussion in past but I only remember "just not done yet" ...or was there something beyond that ? /max http://about.me/maxandersen On 31 Oct 2014, at 17:50, Rafael Benevides < benevides(a)redhat.com > wrote: This was only done for the archetypes On 10/31/14 13:44, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: Didn't we do inject of these when Productization built them ? Or was this only done for the archetypes ? /max http://about.me/maxandersen On 31 Oct 2014, at 14:36, Vineet Reynolds Pereira < vpereira(a)redhat.com > wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max Rydahl Andersen" < max.andersen(a)redhat.com > To: "Rafael Benevides" < benevides(a)redhat.com > Cc: jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org , "Alexandre Porcelli" < alexandre.porcelli(a)gmail.com >, "Tomas Repel" < trepel(a)redhat.com >, "Nikoleta Ziakova" < nziakova(a)redhat.com > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 6:53:43 PM Subject: Re: [jbossdeveloper] <repository /> on quickstarts pom.xml On 31 Oct 2014, at 13:58, Rafael Benevides wrote: I know which dependencies were causing the build to fail and where to find them, but it seems that Alexandre wanted to show users how to run a project as easy as clone, build and run. If I'm not wrong, this discussion started with similar issues in this Arun Gupta Twitter thread: https://twitter.com/arungupta/status/502854638832730112 so this is a different question. Question is if we should add the techpreview/all to quickstarts/examples. Not about earlyaccess. And afaik we already did this for quickstarts with a clear warning, right ? AFAIK, they're not in the POM of the quickstarts. A settings.xml is supplied instead: https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-wfk-quickstarts/blob/2.6.0.Final... But, that would deflect the original question on whether we should add it to POM. Honestly, I dont mind adding it, with the warning that for a real-world project, the repo should instead be in the settings.xml. Thus if ticketmonster does not have that in there I would say it would make sense to add it with similar warning/text as the quickstarts. /max As I also told Alexandre that we were having this discussion, I invited him to give his feedback on this Thread so he can provide more details. Alexandre, Do you mind to share your restrictions and perceptions about the build process ? On 10/31/14 06:47, Marek Novotny wrote: What restrictions does he have ? And I guess the issue here is ticketmonster master needs the earlyaccess bits ? I think ticketmonster master could add the earlyaccess to its pom but then just make sure once it is releaesed it gets removed which should be fine since then it should be using any earlyaccess bundles, right ? Not really, ticket-monster master branch doesn't exist. The closest to master is 2.6.0.Final - https://github.com/jboss-developer/ticket-monster/tree/2.6.0.Final - which is the tight to WFK 2.6.0.GA and all GAVs should be resolvable fromhttp:// maven.repository.redhat.com/techpreview/all/ I think that Rafael knows that 2.7.x-develop is unstable and includes internal product GAVs which are not in all or earlyaccess. So if Alexandre uses 2.6.0.Final branch/tag he should get it to work just with online redhat repository http://maven.repository.redhat.com/techpreview/all/ . If not please advice him to send errors to Vineet or me. _______________________________________________ jbossdeveloper mailing list jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper /max http://about.me/maxandersen _______________________________________________ jbossdeveloper mailing list jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper _______________________________________________ jbossdeveloper mailing list jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper _______________________________________________ jbossdeveloper mailing list jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper _______________________________________________ jbossdeveloper mailing list jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper _______________________________________________ jbossdeveloper mailing list jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper _______________________________________________ jbossdeveloper mailing list jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper