- are we really this powerless in fighting this ?
either by installing filters
or handing out moderation abilities to more users ?
Currently it seems most of what we do (maximum post rate on newcomer) is
hurting real newcomers ability to engage
rather than helping filtering spams..
I know its a loosing battle, but just interested to know if we are doing
or planning something beyond "manually deleting spam" ?
/max
From: jaikiran pai <do-not-reply(a)jboss.com>
To: Max Rydahl Andersen <manderse(a)redhat.com>
Subject: [Website] - Current state of forums - Neglect, spam and
blocking genuine participation, can someone from .org team help?
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Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 03:03:00 -0400
jaikiran pai
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"Current state of forums - Neglect, spam and blocking genuine
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This is not a new issue, but something that (sadly) has been around
for a long while now. The forums hosted at
developer.jboss.org have
been constantly spammed and in general the forums themselves have been
neglected. Genuine activity/participation in the forums has
drastically decreased over the years. To give you an example of the
kind of content (spam) that the forums currently attract, take a look
at the attached screenshots which are from the "Recent discussions"
and the "latest content" widget/pages. All spam (except a thread or
two)!
The more worrying sign is that there seems to be absolutely no one
(other than community volunteers) with the right set of control (i.e.
Jive admin related controls) from the .org team, who seem to monitor
these forums and nip this spam in the bud. The community volunteers
occasionally mark these threads as spam but one can't expect them to
be able to handle this amount of spam on their own.
In the past, when I was employed at Red Hat, I had raised this issue
numerous times and the
jboss.org was helpful enough to add a very
basic spam filter to the forums. Unfortunately, that has helped only
marginally and in fact on many occasions caused problems to genuine
users (see these threads for what I mean
https://developer.jboss.org/thread/248640 One post per hour
https://developer.jboss.org/thread/240315 Disable Frequency Limit
https://developer.jboss.org/thread/237908 Rate Limiting).
If you look at the current bunch of spam, it's very clear that it's a
scripted attack (take a look at the timing on the posts). I am a
moderator in one other very popular Java forum on the internet and
that one is fully driven by volunteers including managing the servers
and the software. Yet, we have far better control on spam. In fact,
you hardly find spam in those forums because we nip them in the bud
with various tools and more importantly with the intention and
dedication of keeping the forums active and lively with genuine
participation. I find it hard to believe that these professional
forums at
jboss.org, overs these past years, have constantly allowed
this kind of spam to continue, yet at the same time haven't addressed
concerns where genuine participation has been blocked.
Could someone from the .org team please take care of these issues and
get rid of spam and at the same time allow genuine participation to
continue? Hopefully someone from the team is allocated to keep a watch
on activities like these on a ongoing basis instead of someone from
the community constantly bringing this up every few weeks.
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