As part of the plan, the BOMs will be splited according to its product: EAP or WFK Today there are some BOMs that is distributed in both products. My question is what we should do about them? Move it to EAP or move it to WFK? The worst if keeping it in both repos. These are the boms that have release on eap 6.1 and wfk 2.2 - with-deltaspike

- with-errai

- with-hibernate

- with-tools

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As part of the plan, the BOMs will be splited according to its product: EAP or WFK Today there are some BOMs that is distributed in both products. My question is what we should do about them? Move it to EAP or move it to WFK? The worst if keeping it in both repos. These are the boms that have release on eap 6.1 and wfk 2.2 - with-deltaspike - with-errai - with-hibernate

So, do we have a -with-hibernate-orm and -with-hibernate-search BOM? On 5 Jul 2013, at 16:40, Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt; wrote: > On Fri 2013-07-05 11:47, Rafael Benevides wrote: >> As part of the plan, the BOMs will be splited according to its product: >> EAP or WFK >> >> Today there are some BOMs that is distributed in both products. My >> question is what we should do about them? Move it to EAP or move it to WFK? >> >> The worst if keeping it in both repos. >> >> These are the boms that have release on eap 6.1 and wfk 2.2 >> >> - with-deltaspike >> - with-errai >> - with-hibernate > > With Hibernate ORM being at the center of EAP's persistence > implementation, ORM should be in a BOM shared by anyone seeding off EAP. > > Hibernate Search being used by WFK, Data Services and JBoss Data Grid > it's quite more complicated but again some "common libs" used by a > common set of versions of EAP, WFK and SOA. > But I'm sure, at least initially that we will need to have some > exceptions esp until the search support for JDG matures enough. > > It's somehow tied ot the layered architecture and the idea of a core > shared by compatible platforms. > > That's a general view but we should discuss on email (or if we have to > on a call) the exact requirements and needs of these BOMs to come to the > proper solution. > > Emmanuel > _______________________________________________ > jdf-dev mailing list > jdf-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jdf-dev

Both mixins and inheritance are supported. On 5 Jul 2013, at 17:31, Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt; wrote: > I don't know. Can you mixin BOMs or are they rigidly hierarchical? > > On 5 juil. 2013, at 18:09, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > >> So, do we have a -with-hibernate-orm and -with-hibernate-search BOM? >> >> On 5 Jul 2013, at 16:40, Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt; wrote: >> >>> On Fri 2013-07-05 11:47, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>> As part of the plan, the BOMs will be splited according to its product: >>>> EAP or WFK >>>> >>>> Today there are some BOMs that is distributed in both products. My >>>> question is what we should do about them? Move it to EAP or move it to WFK? >>>> >>>> The worst if keeping it in both repos. >>>> >>>> These are the boms that have release on eap 6.1 and wfk 2.2 >>>> >>>> - with-deltaspike >>>> - with-errai >>>> - with-hibernate >>> >>> With Hibernate ORM being at the center of EAP's persistence >>> implementation, ORM should be in a BOM shared by anyone seeding off EAP. >>> >>> Hibernate Search being used by WFK, Data Services and JBoss Data Grid >>> it's quite more complicated but again some "common libs" used by a >>> common set of versions of EAP, WFK and SOA. >>> But I'm sure, at least initially that we will need to have some >>> exceptions esp until the search support for JDG matures enough. >>> >>> It's somehow tied ot the layered architecture and the idea of a core >>> shared by compatible platforms. >>> >>> That's a general view but we should discuss on email (or if we have to >>> on a call) the exact requirements and needs of these BOMs to come to the >>> proper solution. >>> >>> Emmanuel >>> _______________________________________________ >>> jdf-dev mailing list >>> jdf-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jdf-dev >>

I'm happy with that. On 11 Jul 2013, at 14:30, Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt; wrote: > Sorry for taking so long to think about this issue. If that's still > relevant, here is what I think. We should indeed have a BOM including > ORM and a different one including Hibernate Search with the second > having a dependency on the first. > > The reasons that lead to this are: > > - JDG and WFK use Hibernate Search > - EAP uses ORM > - HSearch depends on ORM > - HSearch life cycle is faster than ORM's > > Emmanuel > > On Fri 2013-07-05 18:50, Pete Muir wrote: >> Both mixins and inheritance are supported. >> >> On 5 Jul 2013, at 17:31, Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt; wrote: >> >>> I don't know. Can you mixin BOMs or are they rigidly hierarchical? >>> >>> On 5 juil. 2013, at 18:09, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>>> So, do we have a -with-hibernate-orm and -with-hibernate-search BOM? >>>> >>>> On 5 Jul 2013, at 16:40, Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt; wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Fri 2013-07-05 11:47, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>> As part of the plan, the BOMs will be splited according to its product: >>>>>> EAP or WFK >>>>>> >>>>>> Today there are some BOMs that is distributed in both products. My >>>>>> question is what we should do about them? Move it to EAP or move it to WFK? >>>>>> >>>>>> The worst if keeping it in both repos. >>>>>> >>>>>> These are the boms that have release on eap 6.1 and wfk 2.2 >>>>>> >>>>>> - with-deltaspike >>>>>> - with-errai >>>>>> - with-hibernate >>>>> >>>>> With Hibernate ORM being at the center of EAP's persistence >>>>> implementation, ORM should be in a BOM shared by anyone seeding off EAP. >>>>> >>>>> Hibernate Search being used by WFK, Data Services and JBoss Data Grid >>>>> it's quite more complicated but again some "common libs" used by a >>>>> common set of versions of EAP, WFK and SOA. >>>>> But I'm sure, at least initially that we will need to have some >>>>> exceptions esp until the search support for JDG matures enough. >>>>> >>>>> It's somehow tied ot the layered architecture and the idea of a core >>>>> shared by compatible platforms. >>>>> >>>>> That's a general view but we should discuss on email (or if we have to >>>>> on a call) the exact requirements and needs of these BOMs to come to the >>>>> proper solution. >>>>> >>>>> Emmanuel >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> jdf-dev mailing list >>>>> jdf-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jdf-dev >>>> >>

Could you open a JDF issue? On 11 Jul 2013, at 15:55, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > I'm happy with that. > > On 11 Jul 2013, at 14:30, Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt; wrote: > >> Sorry for taking so long to think about this issue. If that's still >> relevant, here is what I think. We should indeed have a BOM including >> ORM and a different one including Hibernate Search with the second >> having a dependency on the first. >> >> The reasons that lead to this are: >> >> - JDG and WFK use Hibernate Search >> - EAP uses ORM >> - HSearch depends on ORM >> - HSearch life cycle is faster than ORM's >> >> Emmanuel >> >> On Fri 2013-07-05 18:50, Pete Muir wrote: >>> Both mixins and inheritance are supported. >>> >>> On 5 Jul 2013, at 17:31, Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt; wrote: >>> >>>> I don't know. Can you mixin BOMs or are they rigidly hierarchical? >>>> >>>> On 5 juil. 2013, at 18:09, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>> >>>>> So, do we have a -with-hibernate-orm and -with-hibernate-search BOM? >>>>> >>>>> On 5 Jul 2013, at 16:40, Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt; wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri 2013-07-05 11:47, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>> As part of the plan, the BOMs will be splited according to its product: >>>>>>> EAP or WFK >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Today there are some BOMs that is distributed in both products. My >>>>>>> question is what we should do about them? Move it to EAP or move it to WFK? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The worst if keeping it in both repos. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> These are the boms that have release on eap 6.1 and wfk 2.2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - with-deltaspike >>>>>>> - with-errai >>>>>>> - with-hibernate >>>>>> >>>>>> With Hibernate ORM being at the center of EAP's persistence >>>>>> implementation, ORM should be in a BOM shared by anyone seeding off EAP. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hibernate Search being used by WFK, Data Services and JBoss Data Grid >>>>>> it's quite more complicated but again some "common libs" used by a >>>>>> common set of versions of EAP, WFK and SOA. >>>>>> But I'm sure, at least initially that we will need to have some >>>>>> exceptions esp until the search support for JDG matures enough. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's somehow tied ot the layered architecture and the idea of a core >>>>>> shared by compatible platforms. >>>>>> >>>>>> That's a general view but we should discuss on email (or if we have to >>>>>> on a call) the exact requirements and needs of these BOMs to come to the >>>>>> proper solution. >>>>>> >>>>>> Emmanuel >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> jdf-dev mailing list >>>>>> jdf-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jdf-dev >>>>> >>> >