Re: [wildfly-dev] smaller footprints

A lot of users want that ability, would you rather have them roll Netty + whatever? On 2/23/2014 9:10 PM, Stuart Douglas wrote: > No, because that means we essentially have to support and test every > possible combination that someone might select. > > Stuart > > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Misty Stanley-Jones <misty(a)redhat.com > <mailto:misty@redhat.com>> wrote: > > I know you guys aren’t there yet, but can we think about wrapping a > GUI around this, so that the developer only needs to tick the boxes > for what he does/doesn’t want, with dependencies sorted out > automatically? Maybe some default profiles that select a group of > things, but the ability to go in and add or remove individual > subsystems as needed? Maybe this could be part of the installer but > could optionally be run post-install as well. > > On Feb 22, 2014, at 2:01 AM, Brian Stansberry > <brian.stansberry(a)redhat.com <mailto:brian.stansberry@redhat.com>> > wrote: > > > When I said "Web" I meant the thing described on that wiki page Tomaz > > linked: > > > > "Web > > > > Undertow subsystem, and all related dependencies, including a small > > subset of EE and JNDI. This is basically just a Servlet > container, and > > will provide a platform for people that want to create web based > > appliances or applications, and don't need all the additional > > functionality that Wildfly provides. We should end up with > something as > > lightweight as Tomcat or Jetty, but with all our advanced management > > functionality." > > > > On 2/21/14, 9:40 AM, Bill Burke wrote: > >> Its also "Web" minus some stuff. For my project I want just > Servlet, > >> JAX-RS, JPA, and datasources. Its very very hard to figure out > how to > >> remove a subsystem and all its associated modules. > >> > >> BTW, I think my maven artifact thing got into JBoss Modules. So it > >> would be possible to load jars on demand, or at least use it as > a way to > >> figure out which modules aren't being used ;). > >> > >> > >> On 2/21/2014 10:22 AM, Brian Stansberry wrote: > >>> This will move things in the right direction, but not all the > way there > >>> yet. Note the set of capabilities Bill mention: web, CDI, > JAX-RS, JPA. > >>> That sounds like our "Web" variant, plus some stuff. It's the > easy "plus > >>> some stuff" part that needs sorting at some point. > >>> > >>> On 2/21/14, 9:08 AM, Tomaž Cerar wrote: > >>>> Bill, > >>>> > >>>> that is exactly idea we have in mind of 9. > >>>> We already started with producing WildFly core distribution in > that is > >>>> WildFly with no subsystems, upon which you can build you own > wildfly. > >>>> It is only 15mb and contains whole mgmt capabilites (CLI, > standalone, > >>>> domain,...) you can grab it at: > >>>> > http://download.jboss.org/wildfly/8.0.0.Final/core/wildfly-core-8.0.0.Fin... > >>>> > >>>> For 9 we have plans to move things bit further and have > decided that we > >>>> will also do split codebase for core, ee, web, .. and other > distributions. > >>>> > >>>> Current idea on code split up is here > >>>> https://community.jboss.org/wiki/SplittingUpTheWildflyCodeBase > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> tomaz > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Bill Burke <bburke(a)redhat.com > <mailto:bburke@redhat.com> > >>>> <mailto:bburke@redhat.com <mailto:bburke@redhat.com>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Resteasy list I have a few people "rolling their own > app server" > >>>> using Netty, Weld, Resteasy and JPA. I asked one of them > "I don't > >>>> understand why you are rolling your own app server" response: > >>>> > >>>> "It's actually a lot more lightweight. The minimum I can > run the > >>>> equivalent on AS7 on is ~ 180 mb in binaries, but > throwing this > >>>> together is about 32 mb (and compresses further when its > packaged). > >>>> I'm able to start the JVM on the bare minimum (~100mb on > my linux VM) > >>>> but AS7 with all I need is about 756mb. When rolling out > in the > >>>> cloud, where all of my REST APIs are stateless, running > with this > >>>> configuration helps us get a lot more per node." > >>>> > >>>> I'm not complaining :), just something to think about. It > might be > >>>> really valuable to focus a bit in Wildfly 9 to make it > easier to create > >>>> custom profiles or even different packaging options for > the app server > >>>> instead of the exploded style we currently have. > >>>> -- > >>>> Bill Burke > >>>> JBoss, a division of Red Hat > >>>> http://bill.burkecentral.com > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> wildfly-dev mailing list > >>>> wildfly-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > <mailto:wildfly-dev@lists.jboss.org> > <mailto:wildfly-dev@lists.jboss.org > <mailto:wildfly-dev@lists.jboss.org>> > >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/wildfly-dev > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> wildfly-dev mailing list > >>>> wildfly-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:wildfly-dev@lists.jboss.org> > >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/wildfly-dev > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Brian Stansberry > > Senior Principal Software Engineer > > JBoss by Red Hat > > _______________________________________________ > > wildfly-dev mailing list > > wildfly-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:wildfly-dev@lists.jboss.org> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/wildfly-dev > > Misty Stanley-Jones, RHCE > Manager, Content Services (Middleware) > Direct: + 61 7 3514 8105 <tel:%2B%2061%207%203514%208105> / Mobile: > +61 429 595 932 <tel:%2B61%20429%20595%20932> (TZ: GMT+10) > IRC: misty (Freenode / RH) > > > _______________________________________________ > wildfly-dev mailing list > wildfly-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:wildfly-dev@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/wildfly-dev > > > > > _______________________________________________ > wildfly-dev mailing list > wildfly-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/wildfly-dev >