Re: [wildfly-dev] Is JMX Needed in Core?

From: "Brian Stansberry" <brian.stansberry(a)redhat.com&gt; To: "John Patton" <John.Patton(a)searshc.com&gt;, wildfly-dev(a)lists.jboss.org Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 1:12:34 PM Subject: Re: [wildfly-dev] Is JMX Needed in Core? If things you need are not exposed via the undertow subsystem management API, please file feature request JIRAs. Or even better, send a patch if you exposed it via the subsystem. On 7/9/14, 1:55 PM, Patton, John wrote: > I'd like to vote for adding it into the full dist and configuring > the > provisioning tool to grab the JMX modules. > > We rely on JMX for accessing specific monitoring metrics and it's > difficult to get at some of the metrics that used to be easily > available > in prior versions for some metrics. We've had to jump through some > hoops > to get JMX working the way we need in wildfly 8 -- with the new > undertow > module, we had to write some code to expose some metrics that used > to be > part of the jbossweb module, like avgResponseTimeMS and > requestCount. > Would be awesome if JMX support was more complete and part of the > full > dist. > > Cheers, > > John H Patton > > > > On 7/9/14 1:27 PM, "Brian Stansberry" <brian.stansberry(a)redhat.com&gt; > wrote: > >> My earlier reply on this thread was in the branch focused on the >> technical detail of how the dependency arises. Which should be >> fixed; >> sounds like that's happening. >> >> On the broader question of where stuff belongs, JMX is an >> interesting >> case. Lots of users will want JMX. A number of subsystems have >> optional >> dependencies on it, including some like jgroups and infinispan >> that may >> end up being part of their own dist, separate from the full dist. >> >> So what's the plan for catering to these needs? Ship it in the >> full dist >> and those who want it depend on the full dist but configure the >> provisioning tool to only grab the JMX modules? Make it a >> micro-dist? >> Maybe a mini-dist packaged with some others? JMX, system-jmx, pojo >> as >> the "deploy your own services" dist? (I don't like that last one, >> just >> brainstorming...) >> >> On 7/9/14, 5:47 AM, Darran Lofthouse wrote: >>> Working with the split repo just questioning if JMX is really >>> needed in >>> core? >>> >>> Whilst most distributions would include it I am not convinced it >>> is a >>> subsystem all must have. >>> >> >> Manageable logging isn't either. Lots of people used >> logging.properties >> for a long time. >> >> Note I'm not advocating removing logging from core; I'm just >> saying that >> no subsystem has to be in core if that's the criteria. >> >>> Regards, >>> Darran Lofthouse. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> wildfly-dev mailing list >>> wildfly-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/wildfly-dev >>> >> >> >> -- >> Brian Stansberry >> Senior Principal Software Engineer >> JBoss by Red Hat >> _______________________________________________ >> wildfly-dev mailing list >> wildfly-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/wildfly-dev > > This message, including any attachments, is the property of Sears > Holdings Corporation and/or one of its subsidiaries. It is > confidential and may contain proprietary or legally privileged > information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete > it without reading the contents. Thank you. > -- Brian Stansberry Senior Principal Software Engineer JBoss by Red Hat _______________________________________________ wildfly-dev mailing list wildfly-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/wildfly-dev