On 6/10/16 9:39 AM, Emmanuel Hugonnet wrote:
On 10/06/2016 16:22, David M. Lloyd wrote:
> On 06/10/2016 08:38 AM, Brian Stansberry wrote:
>> Emmanuel Hugonnet has been working on a long requested feature to have
>> WildFly support "managed exploded deployments." We have a requirements
>> analysis doc for this at
https://developer.jboss.org/docs/DOC-55497 and
>> I just wanted to point that out to the list so anyone interested can
>> have a look, and comment on this thread or on the document.
>>
>> A managed deployment is one where the user provided content is copied by
>> the server/host controller into its internal content repo and then
>> thereafter that copy is what is used. I estimate that 99%+ of all zipped
>> deployments in WildFly are managed. With an unmanaged deployment the
>> user provides the server with the local FS path to the content and then
>> the server directly uses that content. All exploded deployments are
>> unmanaged, as we don't support managed yet.
>>
>> We propose to add 5 new operations to the deployment resource:
>>
>> explode (to convert and archive deployment to exploded)
>
> Hmmm.
>
> Is deployment explosion really an deployer concern, or is it a
> deployment provider concern? Consider:
>
> * The deployment provider is the one who will know whether or not
> his/her deployment will function correctly with or without exploding.
> * The deployment will have been tested in the desired configuration
> (exploded or unexploded).
> * Making this a deployer/administrator concern means that he/she must
> ensure that the extra step(s) taken in development and testing are also
> replicated in production.
>
> Wouldn't it make more sense to have some deployment control metadata
> (maybe even just a MANIFEST header) that says whether the particular
> archive should be exploded?
>
> Also, I don't think it's clear that you always want to explode the outer
> archive if an inner archive is to be exploded (I'm not sure that's
> necessarily implied by the proposed design, but it certainly would be in
> the recursive case). In particular it's definitely useful to explode
> WARs inside of EARs that need not be exploded.
>
> Explode!!
>
> (eom)
I think the main target for explosion scenarios are tools (IDE, build tools, etc.) in a
development environment. so this mecanism is
transparent from the developer point of vuiew.
You have the same functionalities as with the scanner with hopefully a better control
over the deployment management.
Also this means you can develop on a remote server or even on a domain without having to
rebuild the whole archive everytime.
So would you use the 'explode' operation in your netbeans plugin, i.e.
start archived and explode? I'm curious if the JBDS guys will.
I suspect it would be used as a convenience; i.e. instead of the tool
initially uploading 100 files, it uploads a zip and explodes it. And
then either way it begins to manipulate the few files that the tool
regards as eligible for update without redeploy (.html, .css, etc.)
Emmanuel
>
>> add-content
>> update-content
>> remove-content
>> read-content
>>
>> There is one "nice-to-have" requirement listed on the doc where
I'm
>> increasingly thinking it needs to be a hard requirement, so thought on
>> this are appreciated:
>>
>>
>> "The explode operation can take an optional path parameter, the value of
>> which is a path within the deployment that should be exploded.
>> * The use case for this is scenarios like an exploded ear that
>> contains an unexploded war, and then the user later wishes the war to be
>> exploded.
>> * This is much closer to a hard requirement if the nice-to-have
>> requirement for recursively exploding is not supported.
>> * This operation will fail if the content referred to by the path
>> parameter is already exploded or is not a zip file.
>> * This operation will fail if any content between the root of the
>> deployment and the content referred to by the path parameter is an
>> unexploded archive.
>> * So,
>> /deployment=foo.ear:explode(path=/thewar.war/WEB-INF/lib/thejar.jar)
>> would fail if thewar.war hadn't previously been exploded."
>>
>
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