On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 5:20 AM Darran Lofthouse <darran.lofthouse(a)jboss.com>
wrote:
On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 3:01 PM Brian Stansberry <
brian.stansberry(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 6:14 AM Darran Lofthouse <
> darran.lofthouse(a)jboss.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 11:51 AM Yeray Borges Santana <
>> yborgess(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 2:40 PM Brian Stansberry <
>>> brian.stansberry(a)redhat.com> wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 4:45 AM Yeray Borges Santana <
>>>> yborgess(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 2:33 AM Brian Stansberry <
>>>>> brian.stansberry(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We've got a lot ofJIRAs with 'Critical' priority that
have been
>>>>>> inactive for a long time. I think we should define
'Critical' as roughly
>>>>>> "important enough that we need to work on it soon." At
some point if
>>>>>> something goes unaddressed long enough that's a sign that
it's not
>>>>>> important enough to be called critical.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I propose doing the following: for any Critical WFLY or WFCORE
that
>>>>>> was opened > 12 months ago and hasn't shown signs of
activity since the WF
>>>>>> 32 release, I'll leave a comment saying I plan to downgrade
it to Major
>>>>>> unless the assignee says they plan to deal with it for the WF 34
cycle. And
>>>>>> then a couple weeks later downgrade issues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Similarly, for issues with Fix Version 33.0.0.Final that have
been
>>>>>> rolling from release to release since WF 31 or earlier, when I
release 33 I
>>>>>> intend to remove the Fix Version instead of rolling it to 34.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I do agree regarding the "Critical" ones.
>>>>>
>>>>> And about the issues rolling from release to release, I would say we
>>>>> should apply the same policy for WildFly Core issues too.
>>>>> Removing the fix version if the Jira is not resolved will help
>>>>> developers keep their intentions up to date.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking to give a bit of grace there, but this morning my
>>>> initial reference to WF 31 seems like too much. Perhaps letting it roll
one
>>>> time is enough, so something scheduled for 33 can roll to 34, but if it
was
>>>> originally for 32 or earlier, unschedule it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That sounds good to me, although checking the original schedule
>>> on an already rolled Jira will require checking non-resolved Jiras one by
>>> one to verify what was its original schedule. Well, maybe there won't be
>>> too many Jiras, or it might be a simple task to do or even can be done
>>> automatically. Otherwise, I would still consider letting the developer
>>> review its intention on each new release.
>>>
>>
>> If the fix versions were created in Jira before the Beta release, maybe
>> between Beta and Final we could ask developers to move issues forward if
>> they were still needed and then just unschedule the rest.
>>
>
> For full WF my preference is just to look at them and unschedule or roll
> forward as part of my normal release work. I look at them already as part
> of scanning for work that needs to get done before the release, so doing
> that is easiest for me. I don't want to have to do round trip discussions.
>
I was thinking of more of a one time notification so as I release Beta I
ask current assignees to review their open issues. More of a move it or
lose it approach ;-) They can also always be added back manually.
Ok, we can come up with wording and try that with 34. I'll do it manually
for 33.
I think the initial cleanup will mostly take care of the problem.
>
> Yeray, you're the one who does WF Core releases, so I think what works
> best for you is fine.
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Brian Stansberry
>>>>>> Principal Architect, Red Hat JBoss EAP
>>>>>> WildFly Project Lead
>>>>>> He/Him/His
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