Re: [wildfly-dev] Is JMX Needed in Core?
The problem with that is that if you take it to its fullest extent you
end up with one subsystem per repo, which is not something we want.
I am not sure where the best place for it is, even if it stays in core
it should be possible for the tooling to exclude it, same with logging.
Otherwise I think the place for it to live would be the web distro, as I
think that people will definitely want to be able to use JMX to manage
that.
Stuart
Fernando Nasser wrote:
Shouldn't it be like an onion?
A more bare core. A Core with monitoring capabilities. And so on.
On 2014-07-09, 2:27 PM, Brian Stansberry wrote:
> My earlier reply on this thread was in the branch focused on the
> technical detail of how the dependency arises. Which should be fixed;
> sounds like that's happening.
>
> On the broader question of where stuff belongs, JMX is an interesting
> case. Lots of users will want JMX. A number of subsystems have optional
> dependencies on it, including some like jgroups and infinispan that may
> end up being part of their own dist, separate from the full dist.
>
> So what's the plan for catering to these needs? Ship it in the full dist
> and those who want it depend on the full dist but configure the
> provisioning tool to only grab the JMX modules? Make it a micro-dist?
> Maybe a mini-dist packaged with some others? JMX, system-jmx, pojo as
> the "deploy your own services" dist? (I don't like that last one, just
> brainstorming...)
>
> On 7/9/14, 5:47 AM, Darran Lofthouse wrote:
>> Working with the split repo just questioning if JMX is really needed in
>> core?
>>
>> Whilst most distributions would include it I am not convinced it is a
>> subsystem all must have.
>>
> Manageable logging isn't either. Lots of people used logging.properties
> for a long time.
>
> Note I'm not advocating removing logging from core; I'm just saying that
> no subsystem has to be in core if that's the criteria.
>
>> Regards,
>> Darran Lofthouse.
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