, so we can
decide if we want to do it or not :)
On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 12:06 PM Brian Stansberry <
brian.stansberry(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 1:03 PM James Perkins <jperkins(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 9:26 AM Brian Stansberry <
> brian.stansberry(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 5:54 PM James Perkins <jperkins(a)redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Since I've been one that keeps talking about this, it seems I should
>>> reply here as well :)
>>>
>>> In general we could, and really probably should, start with a known set
>>> of dependencies to upgrade. Otherwise we'll probably see A LOT of
>>> dependency upgrade PR's.
>>>
>>
>> Can we start by just doing this in dependabot.yml:
>>
>> ignore:
>> - dependency-name: "*"
>> update-types: ["version-update:semver-major",
>> "version-update:semver-minor"]
>>
>
> We could, yes. We will likely have a lot of upgrades come in that way.
> This might be okay, but my initial thought was to list specific
> dependencies we know to be upgradeable without a JIRA. I'm definitely up
> for being aggressive if we want though :)
>
I'll confess to being too lazy to try and figure out which deps to allow.
:)
>
>>
>> So we limit things to just the micros.
>>
>> Dependabot will only produce 5 open PRs at a time, unless we specify a
>> different number via dependabot.yml.* So we can process 5 at a time and
>> even quickly close ones that will require more thought than we want to
>> spend at that time. The dependency update report that's sent to this list
>> every week will prevent any we ignore or close from falling into a crack.
>>
>>
>> * Perhaps we should start with a smaller max number and increase it
>> every day or so until we get to whatever our long-term target is. IOW,
>> avoid an initial CI-hogging flood.
>>
>
> The CI concerns are definitely valid. I hadn't considered that.
>
I don't think it's *that* big a deal if our long term target is fairly
small. Like if we turned it on on a Friday afternoon not near any tagging
deadline probably no one would even notice the load.
We need to be careful about rebase-strategy though. Having say 5 PRs
continually rebasing and kicking off CI every time we merge would be bad.
Probably we should turn it off and use the pull player /retest when we want
a retest, same as we do with human-created PRs.
https://docs.github.com/en/code-security/dependabot/dependabot-version-up...
>
>>
>>
>>
>>> One thing to note too is that dependabot will create a branch in the
>>> repository. Anyone doing a fetch locally will get this new branch. Not
>>> really a huge deal, but something to keep in mind. Locally you might want
>>> to run git remote prune <your_remote> a little more often if you like
to
>>> keep things clean :)
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for the tip!
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 10:33 AM Brian Stansberry <
>>> brian.stansberry(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Occasionally we've thought about turning on dependabot for the main
>>>> WildFly repo, and a couple current discussions (see [1] and [2]) relate
to
>>>> that, so it seems a good time to discuss further and perhaps take
action.
>>>>
>>>> My main concern with dependabot is it doesn't integrate with JIRA.
>>>> JIRA is really important to how we're able to keep a handle on a
project as
>>>> complex as WildFly. And I think it's important to track component
upgrades
>>>> in JIRA so our users can keep an eye on what we're providing.
Particularly
>>>> important in the world of ubiquitous CVE scanners.
>>>>
>>>> But James Perkins has pointed out that such JIRA tracking is kind of
>>>> overkill for non-production dependencies (e.g. test and build deps) and
I
>>>> agree.
>>>>
>>>> So, how about we turn on dependabot and require a JIRA to be filed and
>>>> linked to the PR if the proposed upgrade is production code dep? For
>>>> non-production deps a JIRA would be optional.
>>>>
>>>> The other thing I care about a lot is being able to grep the git log
>>>> for commits related to a JIRA. That would of course be lost for
>>>> non-production upgrades with no JIRA. Oh well. Also though dependabot
>>>> wouldn't put our JIRA in its commit messages. But for PRs where we
file a
>>>> JIRA we can require human edit of the dependabot PR title to reference
the
>>>> JIRA. That will result in the JIRA appearing in the log via the merge
>>>> commit Github generates. That solves the git log use case adequately
enough
>>>> IMO.
>>>>
>>>
>>> TBH I only grep for JIRA's if I have the JIRA I'm trying to find the
>>> commit for. Short of that, I pretty much just use git blame on the file to
>>> find out which commit changed a line. But everyone has their own workflow
>>> and I don't want to push mine on anyone :)
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>>
https://lists.jboss.org/archives/list/wildfly-dev@lists.jboss.org/thread/...
>>>> [2]
>>>>
https://lists.jboss.org/archives/list/wildfly-dev@lists.jboss.org/thread/...
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Brian
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