FYI: The feature team has been formed, Jeff Mesnil accepted to have the SME
role and Emmanuel Hugonnet the "Outside Perspective" one.
On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 1:07 AM Brian Stansberry <bstansbe(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
Still digesting email from when I was on PTO...
Sounds good; I'll try and have another look at the proposal this week.
On Wed, Aug 27, 2025 at 1:16 PM jdenise(a)redhat.com <jdenise(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> Hi Brian,
> thank-you for your feedback.
> I first thought that having 2 feature-packs would provide less confusion.
> The cloud feature-pack exposes a lot of env variables that will get ignored
> with bootable JAR. So my concern was more at the doc level.
> After having rethought at it, having a single feature-pack, as you
> mentioned, should be a better approach. Simpler to maintain, should avoid
> fp explosion and create a simpler User experience.
>
> Having the existing cloud fp to work for bootable JAR would imply:
>
> - The bash scripts installed by default will not break bootable JAR.
> They are ignored (we already ignore some files that get provisioned such as
> standalone launch scripts, some tools script). We would be able to exclude
> them at provisioning time for bootable JAR packaging but it would be not
> mandatory.
> - We are introducing a new JBoss Modules module specific for Bootable
> JAR, that we could see installed in all cases even if not used in a non
> bootable JAR case (a very small module). We would be able to exclude
> it at provisioning time for nominal server installation but it would be not
> mandatory.
>
> So in the end we should be able to use the cloud feature-pack for both
> packaging without having to mandatorily adjust the provisioning
> configuration. The provisioning configuration could be adjusted to exclude
> some packages (bash scripts or bootable JAR specific JBoss Modules module)
> for optimal provisioned content.
> I am going to revisit the proposal to reflect this approach.
>
> *From: *Brian Stansberry <bstansbe(a)redhat.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 6 August 2025 at 00:23
> *To: *Jean Francois Denise <jdenise(a)redhat.com>
> *Cc: *WildFly Dev <wildfly-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [wildfly-dev] [proposal] WildFly Maven Plugin, package
> bootable JAR for the cloud
>
> Sent from Outlook for Mac
> Is there a way we can make this work with wildfly-cloud-feature-pack?
>
> It seems like this new FP and the existing one share a lot of overlap,
> but then beyond the shared stuff for bootable jar a bit more stuff is
> needed and for the s2i use case a bunch of incorrect-for-bootable jar stuff
> is installed.
>
> That kind of feels like layers.
>
> To be fair, providing 1 feature pack and asking users to configure it for
> the desired target might be more of a burden to them than providing 2 FPs.
> But two FPs does seem confusing. It also increases our cost of delivery.
>
> This is a bit of a tangent, but for sure we are going to need to adapt
> Galleon so a FP can base on one of a set of compatible alternatives, not be
> fixed to one. Dual mode for EE 10 and 11 will mean different flavors of
> wildfly-ee, and we can't have that result in needing 2 of every other FP we
> produce.
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 10:16 AM Jean Francois Denise via wildfly-dev <
> wildfly-dev(a)lists.jboss.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I’ve created a proposal[1] to package a WildFly Bootable JAR for the
> cloud when using the WildFly Maven Plugin (we are currently packaging a
> bootable JAR for bare-metal only).
>
> I’m looking for a feature team to work on this proposal.
> I would also need an outside perspective to fully form the team.
>
> Best regards,
> JF
>
> [1]
https://github.com/wildfly/wildfly-proposals/pull/748
>
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