Re: [jbossdeveloper] http://jboss.org/jdf/stack/plugin-jdf/ looks weird...

We should fire a Jira for these. Em 8/5/14, 9:55, Pete Muir escreveu: > On 5 Aug 2014, at 13:53, Rafael Benevides <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > >> Em 8/5/14, 8:20, Pete Muir escreveu: >>> 1) Create the redirect from site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started to http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/#!formats=jbossdeveloper_quickst... - note that the layout=list-view doesn’t work atm, but will start to work >> Shouldn't we redirect the whole site-jdf ? > These were the only ones that the docs seemed to reference. I don’t believe site-jdf shows up on google. So I don’t see a strong need. Google has also results for http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/about/contributing/

> >>> 2) Don’t update the read me until you see what the list-view looks like. If we think then that the read me needs an update, do it then >>> 3) If we want to create a page to explain the changes, this should be done at the SOURCE side (site-jdf) NOT the destination side. >> This would increase the history of project/product > What does this mean? During the Loconia F2F meeting we talked a lot about the products having a history... It's this kind of history that I were talking about. People should know from Red Hat that JDF become now JBoss Developer Materials. I know that it's implicit, but I would like to make it explicit.

> >>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 19:06, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>>> Removing that section of the README will be somewhat ugly. The table ton >>>> that page not only listed the quickstarts, but the technologies each >>>> demonstrated, the level of experience required, and whether there was a >>>> prerequisite quickstart. Instead we will have to tell them to read the >>>> metadata tags at the beginning of each quickstart README file to get >>>> that information, which is really ugly. >>>> >>>> Rafael, is there any way we steal take the code you used to generate >>>> that table for the JDF site and put it in a script to generate the HTML? >>>> I could then check the HTML file into the >>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-developer-shared-resources/ web >>>> site and we could redirect it there? >>>> >>>> Or, I could edit the README.html file I generate for the product version >>>> of the quickstarts and check it into the shared site.j >>>> >>>> WDYT? >>>> >>>> >>>> On 08/01/2014 01:17 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>> Em 8/1/14, 14:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>> On 08/01/2014 12:31 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:39, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:27 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:24, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>> Wasn't the quickstart table on >>>>>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ the one >>>>>>>>>>>> that included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss ON, and >>>>>>>>>>>> other product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we added the >>>>>>>>>>>> 'Target Product' metadata to the README files? >>>>>>>>>>> Yes >>>>>>>>>>>> Aren't other product teams also depending on that page with the >>>>>>>>>>>> table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every product to >>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-material/"jdf-arrival" should be valid. >>>>>>>>>> Are you saying that >>>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will >>>>>>>>>> redirect to >>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/? >>>>>>>>>> And that page will contain the same contents that were on the >>>>>>>>>> original site? >>>>>>>>>> If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there? ;-) >>>>>>>>> Nope! I said that http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com should redirect to >>>>>>>>> an page (that needs to be created) at http://www.jboss.org that >>>>>>>>> *explains* that JDF (with all Quickstarts, BOMs, Tutorials,etc) >>>>>>>>> was moved to JBoss Developer materials and provide a button (or >>>>>>>>> automatic redirect in x seconds) to >>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Does everybody agrees with this approach ? >>>>>>>> I agree we need a redirect. But if the resulting page does not >>>>>>>> contain the table of quickstarts as described in the README files, >>>>>>>> I will get bug reports from QA. :-( >>>>>>> That's why we need an "explain" page. Not only a single redirect ;) >>>>>> Okay. I guess the best approach for the community quicktarts is to >>>>>> remove the entire paragraph. Do you agree? >>>>> Oh yeah! Definitely! :) >>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the jdf-site@openshift >>>>>>>>>>>>> redirect. >>>>>>>>>>>>> But we can also but www.jboss.org/jdf to redirect to it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> :/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf (or any other jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> URL) with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a brief text similar to: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "JDF site was retired and all its content was moved to JBoss >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Developer >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or click on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> button >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, Archetypes, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tutorials, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only problem is that the page does not match what the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text says. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The text in the README says: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The list of all currently available quickstarts can be found >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>;. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> table >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrates, gives a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and the level of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed information about a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That page does not have a table with all the details. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper redirect to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referenced >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can put redirects in place. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit when this change was made; It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the pull: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the commit: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can remove the link from the community quickstarts, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JIRAs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a download >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point to jdf-site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" URL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved to this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shipping product >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least the page >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it online here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the link that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken links? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore. Just the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search/result page. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this page for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too late to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper