hey, was looking for the old jdf pages and found this: http://jboss.org/jdf/stack/plugin-jdf/ it looks like some stylesheets is messed up ? /max http://about.me/maxandersen _______________________________________________ jbossdeveloper mailing list jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper

The whole /jdf site shouldn't be accessible and it should redirect to /developer-materials For the old JDF site, we keep a copy of it at openshift: http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/stack/plugin-jdf/ Em 7/30/14, 9:22, Paul Robinson escreveu: > Max, > > How did you get to this page? Was it from your bookmark, or was it linked from somewhere? > > Paul. > > On 29 Jul 2014, at 08:19, Max Rydahl Andersen <manderse(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > >> hey, >> >> was looking for the old jdf pages and found this: >> http://jboss.org/jdf/stack/plugin-jdf/ >> >> it looks like some stylesheets is messed up ? >> >> /max >> http://about.me/maxandersen >> _______________________________________________ >> jbossdeveloper mailing list >> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper > > > Paul. > > -- > Paul Robinson > JBoss Developer Team Lead (www.jboss.org) > > JBoss, a Division of Red Hat > Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. 03798903 > Directors:Michael Cunningham (US), Charles Peters (US), Matt Parson (US), Paul Hickey (Ireland) > > > > _______________________________________________ > jbossdeveloper mailing list > jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper _______________________________________________ jbossdeveloper mailing list jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper

Rafael, do we have a new site for plugin-jdf? Or do we just need to remove it now? We can’t use site-jdf any more. On 30 Jul 2014, at 13:35, Paul Robinson <paul.robinson(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > I agree. It seems like we are missing a redirect. > > However, I'm interested to know where this is being linked from, to ensure the redirect still makes sense in that context. > > Paul. > > On 30 Jul 2014, at 13:28, Rafael Benevides <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > >> The whole /jdf site shouldn't be accessible and it should redirect to /developer-materials >> >> For the old JDF site, we keep a copy of it at openshift: http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/stack/plugin-jdf/ >> >> Em 7/30/14, 9:22, Paul Robinson escreveu: >>> Max, >>> >>> How did you get to this page? Was it from your bookmark, or was it linked from somewhere? >>> >>> Paul. >>> >>> On 29 Jul 2014, at 08:19, Max Rydahl Andersen <manderse(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>>> hey, >>>> >>>> was looking for the old jdf pages and found this: >>>> http://jboss.org/jdf/stack/plugin-jdf/ >>>> >>>> it looks like some stylesheets is messed up ? >>>> >>>> /max >>>> http://about.me/maxandersen >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>> >>> Paul. >>> >>> -- >>> Paul Robinson >>> JBoss Developer Team Lead (www.jboss.org) >>> >>> JBoss, a Division of Red Hat >>> Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. 03798903 >>> Directors:Michael Cunningham (US), Charles Peters (US), Matt Parson (US), Paul Hickey (Ireland) >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>> >>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >> _______________________________________________ >> jbossdeveloper mailing list >> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper > > Paul. > > -- > Paul Robinson > JBoss Developer Team Lead (www.jboss.org) > > JBoss, a Division of Red Hat > Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. 03798903 > Directors:Michael Cunningham (US), Charles Peters (US), Matt Parson (US), Paul Hickey (Ireland) > > _______________________________________________ > jbossdeveloper mailing list > jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper

Ok, so let’s remove all those pages from the web. On 30 Jul 2014, at 15:44, Rafael Benevides <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > There's no site for plugin-jdf. I consider it as deprecated as It is marked as "goes away" as part of JDF retirement plan and we have now Forge 2. > > Em 7/30/14, 11:41, Pete Muir escreveu: >> Rafael, do we have a new site for plugin-jdf? Or do we just need to remove it now? We can’t use site-jdf any more. >> >> On 30 Jul 2014, at 13:35, Paul Robinson <paul.robinson(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> >>> I agree. It seems like we are missing a redirect. >>> >>> However, I'm interested to know where this is being linked from, to ensure the redirect still makes sense in that context. >>> >>> Paul. >>> >>> On 30 Jul 2014, at 13:28, Rafael Benevides <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>>> The whole /jdf site shouldn't be accessible and it should redirect to /developer-materials >>>> >>>> For the old JDF site, we keep a copy of it at openshift: http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/stack/plugin-jdf/ >>>> >>>> Em 7/30/14, 9:22, Paul Robinson escreveu: >>>>> Max, >>>>> >>>>> How did you get to this page? Was it from your bookmark, or was it linked from somewhere? >>>>> >>>>> Paul. >>>>> >>>>> On 29 Jul 2014, at 08:19, Max Rydahl Andersen <manderse(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> hey, >>>>>> >>>>>> was looking for the old jdf pages and found this: >>>>>> http://jboss.org/jdf/stack/plugin-jdf/ >>>>>> >>>>>> it looks like some stylesheets is messed up ? >>>>>> >>>>>> /max >>>>>> http://about.me/maxandersen >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>> Paul. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Paul Robinson >>>>> JBoss Developer Team Lead (www.jboss.org) >>>>> >>>>> JBoss, a Division of Red Hat >>>>> Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. 03798903 >>>>> Directors:Michael Cunningham (US), Charles Peters (US), Matt Parson (US), Paul Hickey (Ireland) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>> >>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>> Paul. >>> >>> -- >>> Paul Robinson >>> JBoss Developer Team Lead (www.jboss.org) >>> >>> JBoss, a Division of Red Hat >>> Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. 03798903 >>> Directors:Michael Cunningham (US), Charles Peters (US), Matt Parson (US), Paul Hickey (Ireland) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper

On 30 Jul 2014, at 15:53, Rafael Benevides <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > Do you mean by removing the sandbox openshift jdf-site domain (that is marked as " leave it") ? Yes, on reflection I would prefer moving this. > Sorry, but I don't get what you mean by remove all those pages.. Delete em. > Em 7/30/14, 11:51, Pete Muir escreveu: >> Ok, so let’s remove all those pages from the web. >> >> On 30 Jul 2014, at 15:44, Rafael Benevides >> <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; >> wrote: >> >> >>> There's no site for plugin-jdf. I consider it as deprecated as It is marked as "goes away" as part of JDF retirement plan and we have now Forge 2. >>> >>> Em 7/30/14, 11:41, Pete Muir escreveu: >>> >>>> Rafael, do we have a new site for plugin-jdf? Or do we just need to remove it now? We can’t use site-jdf any more. >>>> >>>> On 30 Jul 2014, at 13:35, Paul Robinson >>>> <paul.robinson(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I agree. It seems like we are missing a redirect. >>>>> >>>>> However, I'm interested to know where this is being linked from, to ensure the redirect still makes sense in that context. >>>>> >>>>> Paul. >>>>> >>>>> On 30 Jul 2014, at 13:28, Rafael Benevides >>>>> <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> The whole /jdf site shouldn't be accessible and it should redirect to /developer-materials >>>>>> >>>>>> For the old JDF site, we keep a copy of it at openshift: >>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/stack/plugin-jdf/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Em 7/30/14, 9:22, Paul Robinson escreveu: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Max, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How did you get to this page? Was it from your bookmark, or was it linked from somewhere? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Paul. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 29 Jul 2014, at 08:19, Max Rydahl Andersen >>>>>>> <manderse(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> hey, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> was looking for the old jdf pages and found this: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://jboss.org/jdf/stack/plugin-jdf/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it looks like some stylesheets is messed up ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> /max >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://about.me/maxandersen >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>> Paul. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Paul Robinson >>>>>>> JBoss Developer Team Lead ( >>>>>>> www.jboss.org >>>>>>> ) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> JBoss, a Division of Red Hat >>>>>>> Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. 03798903 >>>>>>> Directors:Michael Cunningham (US), Charles Peters (US), Matt Parson (US), Paul Hickey (Ireland) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>> >>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>> Paul. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Paul Robinson >>>>> JBoss Developer Team Lead ( >>>>> www.jboss.org >>>>> ) >>>>> >>>>> JBoss, a Division of Red Hat >>>>> Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. 03798903 >>>>> Directors:Michael Cunningham (US), Charles Peters (US), Matt Parson (US), Paul Hickey (Ireland) >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>> >>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper

Sande / Marek, As discussed on jbossdeveloper list, the jdf-site at openshift is stopped and it will be deleted next week. Marek, Do you have any reason to keep it running ? Em 7/30/14, 12:13, Rafael Benevides escreveu: > I stopped http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/ and I'll delete it in one week. > > Em 7/30/14, 11:59, Pete Muir escreveu: >> On 30 Jul 2014, at 15:53, Rafael Benevides <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> >>> Do you mean by removing the sandbox openshift jdf-site domain (that >>> is marked as " leave it") ? >> Yes, on reflection I would prefer moving this. >> >>> Sorry, but I don't get what you mean by remove all those pages.. >> Delete em. >> >>> Em 7/30/14, 11:51, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>> Ok, so let’s remove all those pages from the web. >>>> >>>> On 30 Jul 2014, at 15:44, Rafael Benevides >>>> <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> There's no site for plugin-jdf. I consider it as deprecated as It >>>>> is marked as "goes away" as part of JDF retirement plan and we >>>>> have now Forge 2. >>>>> >>>>> Em 7/30/14, 11:41, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>> >>>>>> Rafael, do we have a new site for plugin-jdf? Or do we just need >>>>>> to remove it now? We can’t use site-jdf any more. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 30 Jul 2014, at 13:35, Paul Robinson >>>>>> <paul.robinson(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I agree. It seems like we are missing a redirect. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, I'm interested to know where this is being linked from, >>>>>>> to ensure the redirect still makes sense in that context. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Paul. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 30 Jul 2014, at 13:28, Rafael Benevides >>>>>>> <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The whole /jdf site shouldn't be accessible and it should >>>>>>>> redirect to /developer-materials >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For the old JDF site, we keep a copy of it at openshift: >>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/stack/plugin-jdf/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Em 7/30/14, 9:22, Paul Robinson escreveu: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Max, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How did you get to this page? Was it from your bookmark, or >>>>>>>>> was it linked from somewhere? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Paul. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 29 Jul 2014, at 08:19, Max Rydahl Andersen >>>>>>>>> <manderse(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> hey, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> was looking for the old jdf pages and found this: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://jboss.org/jdf/stack/plugin-jdf/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> it looks like some stylesheets is messed up ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> /max >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/maxandersen >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>> Paul. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Paul Robinson >>>>>>>>> JBoss Developer Team Lead ( >>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org >>>>>>>>> ) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> JBoss, a Division of Red Hat >>>>>>>>> Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. >>>>>>>>> 03798903 >>>>>>>>> Directors:Michael Cunningham (US), Charles Peters (US), Matt >>>>>>>>> Parson (US), Paul Hickey (Ireland) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>> Paul. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Paul Robinson >>>>>>> JBoss Developer Team Lead ( >>>>>>> www.jboss.org >>>>>>> ) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> JBoss, a Division of Red Hat >>>>>>> Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. >>>>>>> 03798903 >>>>>>> Directors:Michael Cunningham (US), Charles Peters (US), Matt >>>>>>> Parson (US), Paul Hickey (Ireland) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>> >>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper _______________________________________________ jbossdeveloper mailing list jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper

> Sande / Marek, > > As discussed on jbossdeveloper list, the jdf-site at openshift is > stopped and it will be deleted next week. > > Marek, > > Do you have any reason to keep it running ? > > Em 7/30/14, 12:13, Rafael Benevides escreveu: >> I stopped http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/ and I'll delete it in one week. >> >> Em 7/30/14, 11:59, Pete Muir escreveu: >>> On 30 Jul 2014, at 15:53, Rafael Benevides <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Do you mean by removing the sandbox openshift jdf-site domain (that >>>> is marked as " leave it") ? >>> Yes, on reflection I would prefer moving this. >>> >>>> Sorry, but I don't get what you mean by remove all those pages.. >>> Delete em. >>> >>>> Em 7/30/14, 11:51, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>> Ok, so let’s remove all those pages from the web. >>>>> >>>>> On 30 Jul 2014, at 15:44, Rafael Benevides >>>>> <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> There's no site for plugin-jdf. I consider it as deprecated as It >>>>>> is marked as "goes away" as part of JDF retirement plan and we >>>>>> have now Forge 2. >>>>>> >>>>>> Em 7/30/14, 11:41, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Rafael, do we have a new site for plugin-jdf? Or do we just need >>>>>>> to remove it now? We can’t use site-jdf any more. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 30 Jul 2014, at 13:35, Paul Robinson >>>>>>> <paul.robinson(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I agree. It seems like we are missing a redirect. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However, I'm interested to know where this is being linked from, >>>>>>>> to ensure the redirect still makes sense in that context. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Paul. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 30 Jul 2014, at 13:28, Rafael Benevides >>>>>>>> <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The whole /jdf site shouldn't be accessible and it should >>>>>>>>> redirect to /developer-materials >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For the old JDF site, we keep a copy of it at openshift: >>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/stack/plugin-jdf/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Em 7/30/14, 9:22, Paul Robinson escreveu: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Max, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> How did you get to this page? Was it from your bookmark, or >>>>>>>>>> was it linked from somewhere? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Paul. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 29 Jul 2014, at 08:19, Max Rydahl Andersen >>>>>>>>>> <manderse(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> hey, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> was looking for the old jdf pages and found this: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://jboss.org/jdf/stack/plugin-jdf/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> it looks like some stylesheets is messed up ? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> /max >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/maxandersen >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>> Paul. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Paul Robinson >>>>>>>>>> JBoss Developer Team Lead ( >>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>> ) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> JBoss, a Division of Red Hat >>>>>>>>>> Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. >>>>>>>>>> 03798903 >>>>>>>>>> Directors:Michael Cunningham (US), Charles Peters (US), Matt >>>>>>>>>> Parson (US), Paul Hickey (Ireland) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>> Paul. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Paul Robinson >>>>>>>> JBoss Developer Team Lead ( >>>>>>>> www.jboss.org >>>>>>>> ) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> JBoss, a Division of Red Hat >>>>>>>> Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. >>>>>>>> 03798903 >>>>>>>> Directors:Michael Cunningham (US), Charles Peters (US), Matt >>>>>>>> Parson (US), Paul Hickey (Ireland) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper > _______________________________________________ > jbossdeveloper mailing list > jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper

We don't have that table with all quickstarts anymore. Just the search/result page. Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: > Hi Rafael, > > I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. > > The root README for the quickstarts points to this page for the list > of all the available quickstart. Unfortunately, the quickstarts are > frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's too late to change it, so the > broken link is going to look really bad. > > Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts anywhere else? > Thanks, > Sande

On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it moved to this site. We keep changing things out and breaking shipping product links and I can't change anything in the shipping products at this point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at least the page with the table of quickstarts? Sande, what link is broken?

> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >> We don't have that table with all quickstarts anymore. Just the search/result page. >> >> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>> Hi Rafael, >>> >>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. >>> >>> The root README for the quickstarts points to this page for the list of all the available quickstart. Unfortunately, the quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's too late to change it, so the broken link is going to look really bad. >>> >>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts anywhere else? >>> Thanks, >>> Sande

On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote: >> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> >>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it moved to this site. We keep changing things out and breaking shipping product links and I can't change anything in the shipping products at this point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at least the page with the table of quickstarts? >> Sande, what link is broken? > The root README file in the shipping quickstarts: http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j... > > You can see it online here: https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel... I think this is the source file, not the actual thing that is broken. You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is the link that breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include the broken links? >>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts anymore. Just the search/result page. >>>> >>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>> >>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. >>>>> >>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to this page for the list of all the available quickstart. Unfortunately, the quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's too late to change it, so the broken link is going to look really bad. >>>>> >>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts anywhere else? >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Sande

Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There were JIRAs related to that page, for example this one to add a download button: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228. I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-( On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: > Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both point to jdf-site > at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" URL for former > www.jboss.org/jdf site > > Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> >>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote: >>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>> >>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it moved to this >>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking shipping product >>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping products at this >>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at least the page >>>>> with the table of quickstarts? >>>> Sande, what link is broken? >>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts: >>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j... >>> >>> You can see it online here: >>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel... >> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing that is broken. >> >> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is the link that >> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include the broken links? >> >>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts anymore. Just the >>>>>> search/result page. >>>>>> >>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to this page for the >>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. Unfortunately, the >>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's too late to >>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look really bad. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts anywhere else? >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Sande _______________________________________________ jbossdeveloper mailing list jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper

Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we referenced on site-jdf.rhcloud.com? We can put redirects in place. On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > I found the pull and commit when this change was made; It was done on October 2, 2013. > • This was the pull: https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642 > • This was the commit: https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a... > I can remove the link from the community quickstarts, but not from the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts. > > On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote: >> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There were JIRAs related >> to that page, for example this one to add a download button: >> >> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228 >> . >> >> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-( >> >> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >> >>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both point to jdf-site >>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" URL for former >>> >>> www.jboss.org/jdf >>> site >>> >>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>> >>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it moved to this >>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking shipping product >>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping products at this >>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at least the page >>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts? >>>>>>> >>>>>> Sande, what link is broken? >>>>>> >>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts: >>>>> >>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You can see it online here: >>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel... >>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing that is broken. >>>> >>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is the link that >>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include the broken links? >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts anymore. Just the >>>>>>>> search/result page. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to this page for the >>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. Unfortunately, the >>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's too late to >>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look really bad. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts anywhere else? >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Sande >>>>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> jbossdeveloper mailing list >> >> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper

So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper redirect to http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/ Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu: > Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we referenced on > site-jdf.rhcloud.com? > > We can put redirects in place. > > On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > >> I found the pull and commit when this change was made; It was done >> on October 2, 2013. >> • This was the pull: >> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642 >> • This was the commit: >> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a... >> I can remove the link from the community quickstarts, but not from >> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts. >> >> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote: >>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There were JIRAs related >>> to that page, for example this one to add a download button: >>> >>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228 >>> . >>> >>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-( >>> >>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>> >>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both point to jdf-site >>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" URL for former >>>> >>>> www.jboss.org/jdf >>>> site >>>> >>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>> >>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it moved to this >>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking shipping product >>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping products at >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at least the page >>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken? >>>>>>> >>>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You can see it online here: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel... >>>>>> >>>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing that is >>>>> broken. >>>>> >>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is the link that >>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include the broken >>>>> links? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts anymore. Just the >>>>>>>>> search/result page. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to this page for the >>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. Unfortunately, the >>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's too late to >>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look really bad. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts anywhere else? >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> Sande >>>>>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>> >>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper

:/ Maybe we should create an arrival page at www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf (or any other jboss.org URL) with a brief text similar to: "JDF site was retired and all its content was moved to JBoss Developer Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or click on the button bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, Archetypes, Tutorials, etc..." - Rephrase needed! Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu: > The only problem is that the page does not match what the text says. > The text in the README says: > > The list of all currently available quickstarts can be found here: > <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>;. The table > lists each quickstart name, the technologies it demonstrates, gives a > brief description of the quickstart, and the level of experience > required to set it up. For more detailed information about a > quickstart, click on the quickstart name. > > That page does not have a table with all the details. > > On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper redirect to >> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/ >> >> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we referenced >>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com? >>> >>> We can put redirects in place. >>> >>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>>> I found the pull and commit when this change was made; It was done >>>> on October 2, 2013. >>>> • This was the pull: >>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642 >>>> • This was the commit: >>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a... >>>> I can remove the link from the community quickstarts, but not from >>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts. >>>> >>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote: >>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There were JIRAs >>>>> related >>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a download button: >>>>> >>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228 >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-( >>>>> >>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both point to jdf-site >>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" URL for former >>>>>> >>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf >>>>>> site >>>>>> >>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it moved to this >>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking shipping product >>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping products at >>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at least the page >>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can see it online here: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing that is >>>>>>> broken. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is the link that >>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include the >>>>>>> broken links? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts anymore. Just the >>>>>>>>>>> search/result page. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to this page for >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. Unfortunately, the >>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's too late to >>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look really bad. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts anywhere >>>>>>>>>>>> else? >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>> Sande >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>> >>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper _______________________________________________ jbossdeveloper mailing list jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper

Wasn't the quickstart table on http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ the one that included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss ON, and other product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we added the 'Target Product' metadata to the README files?

Aren't other product teams also depending on that page with the table of quickstarts?

On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: > Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the jdf-site@openshift redirect. > But we can also but www.jboss.org/jdf to redirect to it. > > > Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu: >> :/ >> >> Maybe we should create an arrival page at >> www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf (or any other jboss.org URL) with >> a brief text similar to: >> >> "JDF site was retired and all its content was moved to JBoss Developer >> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or click on the button >> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, Archetypes, Tutorials, >> etc..." - Rephrase needed! >> >> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>> The only problem is that the page does not match what the text says. >>> The text in the README says: >>> >>> The list of all currently available quickstarts can be found here: >>> <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>;. The table >>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies it demonstrates, gives a >>> brief description of the quickstart, and the level of experience >>> required to set it up. For more detailed information about a >>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name. >>> >>> That page does not have a table with all the details. >>> >>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper redirect to >>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/ >>>> >>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we referenced >>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com? >>>>> >>>>> We can put redirects in place. >>>>> >>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I found the pull and commit when this change was made; It was done >>>>>> on October 2, 2013. >>>>>> • This was the pull: >>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642 >>>>>> • This was the commit: >>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a... >>>>>> >>>>>> I can remove the link from the community quickstarts, but not from >>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote: >>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There were JIRAs >>>>>>> related >>>>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a download button: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228 >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-( >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both point to >>>>>>>> jdf-site >>>>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" URL for >>>>>>>> former >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf >>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it moved to >>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking shipping >>>>>>>>>>>> product >>>>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping products at >>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at least >>>>>>>>>>>> the page >>>>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can see it online here: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing that is >>>>>>>>> broken. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is the link >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include the >>>>>>>>> broken links? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts anymore. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Just the >>>>>>>>>>>>> search/result page. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to this page for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. Unfortunately, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's too >>>>>>>>>>>>>> late to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look really bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts anywhere >>>>>>>>>>>>>> else? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>> >>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >> _______________________________________________ >> jbossdeveloper mailing list >> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper > _______________________________________________ > jbossdeveloper mailing list > jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper

On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: > > Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu: >> Wasn't the quickstart table on >> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ the one that >> included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss ON, and other >> product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we added the 'Target >> Product' metadata to the README files? > Yes >> >> Aren't other product teams also depending on that page with the >> table of quickstarts? > I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every product to > www.jboss.org/developer-material/"jdf-arrival" should be valid. Are you saying that http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will redirect to http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/? And that page will contain the same contents that were on the original site? If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there? ;-)

>> >> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the jdf-site@openshift redirect. >>> But we can also but www.jboss.org/jdf to redirect to it. >>> >>> >>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu: >>>> :/ >>>> >>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at >>>> www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf (or any other jboss.org URL) >>>> with >>>> a brief text similar to: >>>> >>>> "JDF site was retired and all its content was moved to JBoss >>>> Developer >>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or click on the button >>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, Archetypes, Tutorials, >>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed! >>>> >>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>> The only problem is that the page does not match what the text says. >>>>> The text in the README says: >>>>> >>>>> The list of all currently available quickstarts can be found here: >>>>> <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>;. The table >>>>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies it demonstrates, >>>>> gives a >>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and the level of experience >>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed information about a >>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name. >>>>> >>>>> That page does not have a table with all the details. >>>>> >>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper redirect to >>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we referenced >>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We can put redirects in place. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit when this change was made; It was >>>>>>>> done >>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013. >>>>>>>> • This was the pull: >>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642 >>>>>>>> • This was the commit: >>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can remove the link from the community quickstarts, but not >>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote: >>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There were JIRAs >>>>>>>>> related >>>>>>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a download button: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228 >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-( >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both point to >>>>>>>>>> jdf-site >>>>>>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" URL for >>>>>>>>>> former >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf >>>>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it moved >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to this >>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking shipping >>>>>>>>>>>>>> product >>>>>>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping >>>>>>>>>>>>>> products at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at least >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the page >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it online here: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing that is >>>>>>>>>>> broken. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is the >>>>>>>>>>> link that >>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include the >>>>>>>>>>> broken links? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts anymore. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search/result page. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. Unfortunately, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's too >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> late to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look really >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts anywhere >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>> _______________________________________________ >>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >> >

On 08/01/2014 11:27 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: > > Em 8/1/14, 12:24, Sande Gilda escreveu: >> >> On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>> >>> Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>> Wasn't the quickstart table on >>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ the one that >>>> included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss ON, and other >>>> product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we added the 'Target >>>> Product' metadata to the README files? >>> Yes >>>> >>>> Aren't other product teams also depending on that page with the >>>> table of quickstarts? >>> I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every product to >>> www.jboss.org/developer-material/"jdf-arrival" should be valid. >> >> Are you saying that >> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will redirect to >> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/? >> And that page will contain the same contents that were on the >> original site? >> If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there? ;-) > > Nope! I said that http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com should redirect to an > page (that needs to be created) at http://www.jboss.org that > *explains* that JDF (with all Quickstarts, BOMs, Tutorials,etc) was > moved to JBoss Developer materials and provide a button (or automatic > redirect in x seconds) to http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials > > Does everybody agrees with this approach ? I agree we need a redirect. But if the resulting page does not contain the table of quickstarts as described in the README files, I will get bug reports from QA. :-(

>>>> >>>> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the jdf-site@openshift redirect. >>>>> But we can also but www.jboss.org/jdf to redirect to it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu: >>>>>> :/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at >>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf (or any other jboss.org >>>>>> URL) with >>>>>> a brief text similar to: >>>>>> >>>>>> "JDF site was retired and all its content was moved to JBoss >>>>>> Developer >>>>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or click on the button >>>>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, Archetypes, Tutorials, >>>>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed! >>>>>> >>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>> The only problem is that the page does not match what the text >>>>>>> says. >>>>>>> The text in the README says: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The list of all currently available quickstarts can be found here: >>>>>>> <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>;. The table >>>>>>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies it demonstrates, >>>>>>> gives a >>>>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and the level of experience >>>>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed information about a >>>>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That page does not have a table with all the details. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper redirect to >>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we >>>>>>>>> referenced >>>>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We can put redirects in place. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit when this change was made; It was >>>>>>>>>> done >>>>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013. >>>>>>>>>> • This was the pull: >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> • This was the commit: >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I can remove the link from the community quickstarts, but not >>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There were JIRAs >>>>>>>>>>> related >>>>>>>>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a download button: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228 >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-( >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both point to >>>>>>>>>>>> jdf-site >>>>>>>>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" URL for >>>>>>>>>>>> former >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf >>>>>>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it moved >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking shipping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> product >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at least >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the page >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it online here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing that is >>>>>>>>>>>>> broken. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is the >>>>>>>>>>>>> link that >>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include the >>>>>>>>>>>>> broken links? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts anymore. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search/result page. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. Unfortunately, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's too >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> late to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look really >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ jbossdeveloper mailing list jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper

On 1 Aug 2014, at 16:39, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com <mailto:sgilda@redhat.com>> wrote: > > On 08/01/2014 11:27 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >> >> Em 8/1/14, 12:24, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>> >>> On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>> >>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>> Wasn't the quickstart table on >>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ the one that >>>>> included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss ON, and other >>>>> product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we added the 'Target >>>>> Product' metadata to the README files? >>>> Yes >>>>> >>>>> Aren't other product teams also depending on that page with the >>>>> table of quickstarts? >>>> I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every product to >>>> www.jboss.org/developer-material/ >>>> <http://www.jboss.org/developer-material/>"jdf-arrival" should be >>>> valid. >>> >>> Are you saying that >>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will redirect to >>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/? >>> And that page will contain the same contents that were on the >>> original site? >>> If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there? ;-) >> >> Nope! I said that http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com should redirect to an >> page (that needs to be created) at http://www.jboss.org that >> *explains* that JDF (with all Quickstarts, BOMs, Tutorials,etc) was >> moved to JBoss Developer materials and provide a button (or automatic >> redirect in x seconds) to http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials >> >> Does everybody agrees with this approach ? > > I agree we need a redirect. But if the resulting page does not contain > the table of quickstarts as described in the README files, I will get > bug reports from QA. :-( We came up with a plan for this in Edinburgh. It's basically a list view option with a choice on how many items per page to display. It'll be in a jira issue soon so you can comment. We will also have a wireframe and/or mockup available for you to review.

> >>>>> >>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the jdf-site@openshift >>>>>> redirect. >>>>>> But we can also but www.jboss.org/jdf <http://www.jboss.org/jdf> >>>>>> to redirect to it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu: >>>>>>> :/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at >>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf >>>>>>> <http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf> (or any other >>>>>>> jboss.org <http://jboss.org> >>>>>>> URL) with >>>>>>> a brief text similar to: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "JDF site was retired and all its content was moved to JBoss >>>>>>> Developer >>>>>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or click on the >>>>>>> button >>>>>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, Archetypes, >>>>>>> Tutorials, >>>>>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>> The only problem is that the page does not match what the text >>>>>>>> says. >>>>>>>> The text in the README says: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The list of all currently available quickstarts can be found here: >>>>>>>> <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>;. The table >>>>>>>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies it demonstrates, >>>>>>>> gives a >>>>>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and the level of experience >>>>>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed information about a >>>>>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That page does not have a table with all the details. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper redirect to >>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we >>>>>>>>>> referenced >>>>>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We can put redirects in place. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit when this change was made; It was >>>>>>>>>>> done >>>>>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013. >>>>>>>>>>> • This was the pull: >>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> • This was the commit: >>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I can remove the link from the community quickstarts, but not >>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There were JIRAs >>>>>>>>>>>> related >>>>>>>>>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a download button: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228 >>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-( >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both point to >>>>>>>>>>>>> jdf-site >>>>>>>>>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" URL for >>>>>>>>>>>>> former >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf >>>>>>>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it moved >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking shipping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> product >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at least >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the page >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it online here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> link that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken links? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts anymore. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search/result page. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's too >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> late to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look really >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>> <mailto:jbossdeveloper@lists.jboss.org> >>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>> <mailto:jbossdeveloper@lists.jboss.org> >>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > jbossdeveloper mailing list > jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:jbossdeveloper@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper Paul. -- Paul Robinson JBoss Developer Team Lead (www.jboss.org <http://www.jboss.org>) JBoss, a Division of Red Hat Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. 03798903 Directors:Michael Cunningham (US), Charles Peters (US), Matt Parson (US), Paul Hickey (Ireland)

Em 8/1/14, 12:39, Sande Gilda escreveu: > > On 08/01/2014 11:27 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >> >> Em 8/1/14, 12:24, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>> >>> On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>> >>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>> Wasn't the quickstart table on >>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ the one that >>>>> included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss ON, and other >>>>> product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we added the 'Target >>>>> Product' metadata to the README files? >>>> Yes >>>>> >>>>> Aren't other product teams also depending on that page with the >>>>> table of quickstarts? >>>> I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every product to >>>> www.jboss.org/developer-material/"jdf-arrival" should be valid. >>> >>> Are you saying that >>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will redirect >>> to http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/? >>> And that page will contain the same contents that were on the >>> original site? >>> If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there? ;-) >> >> Nope! I said that http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com should redirect to an >> page (that needs to be created) at http://www.jboss.org that >> *explains* that JDF (with all Quickstarts, BOMs, Tutorials,etc) was >> moved to JBoss Developer materials and provide a button (or >> automatic redirect in x seconds) to >> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials >> >> Does everybody agrees with this approach ? > > I agree we need a redirect. But if the resulting page does not > contain the table of quickstarts as described in the README files, I > will get bug reports from QA. :-( That's why we need an "explain" page. Not only a single redirect ;)

> >>>>> >>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the jdf-site@openshift >>>>>> redirect. >>>>>> But we can also but www.jboss.org/jdf to redirect to it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu: >>>>>>> :/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at >>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf (or any other jboss.org >>>>>>> URL) with >>>>>>> a brief text similar to: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "JDF site was retired and all its content was moved to JBoss >>>>>>> Developer >>>>>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or click on the >>>>>>> button >>>>>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, Archetypes, >>>>>>> Tutorials, >>>>>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>> The only problem is that the page does not match what the text >>>>>>>> says. >>>>>>>> The text in the README says: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The list of all currently available quickstarts can be found >>>>>>>> here: >>>>>>>> <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>;. The table >>>>>>>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies it demonstrates, >>>>>>>> gives a >>>>>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and the level of experience >>>>>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed information about a >>>>>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That page does not have a table with all the details. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper redirect to >>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we >>>>>>>>>> referenced >>>>>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We can put redirects in place. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit when this change was made; It >>>>>>>>>>> was done >>>>>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013. >>>>>>>>>>> • This was the pull: >>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> • This was the commit: >>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I can remove the link from the community quickstarts, but >>>>>>>>>>> not from >>>>>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There were >>>>>>>>>>>> JIRAs >>>>>>>>>>>> related >>>>>>>>>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a download button: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228 >>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-( >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both point >>>>>>>>>>>>> to jdf-site >>>>>>>>>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" URL >>>>>>>>>>>>> for former >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf >>>>>>>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved to this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shipping product >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least the page >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it online here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> link that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken links? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore. Just the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search/result page. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too late to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >

Em 8/1/14, 14:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: > > On 08/01/2014 12:31 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >> >> Em 8/1/14, 12:39, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>> >>> On 08/01/2014 11:27 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>> >>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:24, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>> >>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>> Wasn't the quickstart table on >>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ the one >>>>>>> that included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss ON, and >>>>>>> other product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we added the >>>>>>> 'Target Product' metadata to the README files? >>>>>> Yes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Aren't other product teams also depending on that page with the >>>>>>> table of quickstarts? >>>>>> I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every product to >>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-material/"jdf-arrival" should be valid. >>>>> >>>>> Are you saying that >>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will >>>>> redirect to >>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/? >>>>> And that page will contain the same contents that were on the >>>>> original site? >>>>> If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there? ;-) >>>> >>>> Nope! I said that http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com should redirect to >>>> an page (that needs to be created) at http://www.jboss.org that >>>> *explains* that JDF (with all Quickstarts, BOMs, Tutorials,etc) >>>> was moved to JBoss Developer materials and provide a button (or >>>> automatic redirect in x seconds) to >>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials >>>> >>>> Does everybody agrees with this approach ? >>> >>> I agree we need a redirect. But if the resulting page does not >>> contain the table of quickstarts as described in the README files, >>> I will get bug reports from QA. :-( >> That's why we need an "explain" page. Not only a single redirect ;) > > Okay. I guess the best approach for the community quicktarts is to > remove the entire paragraph. Do you agree? Oh yeah! Definitely! :) >> >>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the jdf-site@openshift >>>>>>>> redirect. >>>>>>>> But we can also but www.jboss.org/jdf to redirect to it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu: >>>>>>>>> :/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at >>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf (or any other jboss.org >>>>>>>>> URL) with >>>>>>>>> a brief text similar to: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "JDF site was retired and all its content was moved to JBoss >>>>>>>>> Developer >>>>>>>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or click on the >>>>>>>>> button >>>>>>>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, Archetypes, >>>>>>>>> Tutorials, >>>>>>>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>> The only problem is that the page does not match what the >>>>>>>>>> text says. >>>>>>>>>> The text in the README says: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The list of all currently available quickstarts can be found >>>>>>>>>> here: >>>>>>>>>> <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>;. The >>>>>>>>>> table >>>>>>>>>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies it >>>>>>>>>> demonstrates, gives a >>>>>>>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and the level of >>>>>>>>>> experience >>>>>>>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed information about a >>>>>>>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That page does not have a table with all the details. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper redirect to >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we >>>>>>>>>>>> referenced >>>>>>>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We can put redirects in place. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit when this change was made; It >>>>>>>>>>>>> was done >>>>>>>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013. >>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the pull: >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the commit: >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I can remove the link from the community quickstarts, but >>>>>>>>>>>>> not from >>>>>>>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There were >>>>>>>>>>>>>> JIRAs >>>>>>>>>>>>>> related >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a download >>>>>>>>>>>>>> button: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-( >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point to jdf-site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" URL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved to this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shipping product >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least the page >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it online here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the link that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken links? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore. Just the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search/result page. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this page for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too late to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >

I'm not sure. I think it worth a discussion with Pete, Paul and Catherine also. Em 8/1/14, 15:06, Sande Gilda escreveu: > Removing that section of the README will be somewhat ugly. The table > ton that page not only listed the quickstarts, but the technologies > each demonstrated, the level of experience required, and whether > there was a prerequisite quickstart. Instead we will have to tell > them to read the metadata tags at the beginning of each quickstart > README file to get that information, which is really ugly. > > Rafael, is there any way we steal take the code you used to generate > that table for the JDF site and put it in a script to generate the > HTML? I could then check the HTML file into the > https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-developer-shared-resources/ > web site and we could redirect it there? > > Or, I could edit the README.html file I generate for the product > version of the quickstarts and check it into the shared site. > > WDYT? > > > On 08/01/2014 01:17 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >> >> Em 8/1/14, 14:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>> >>> On 08/01/2014 12:31 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>> >>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:39, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>> >>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:27 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:24, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>> Wasn't the quickstart table on >>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ the one >>>>>>>>> that included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss ON, and >>>>>>>>> other product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we added the >>>>>>>>> 'Target Product' metadata to the README files? >>>>>>>> Yes >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Aren't other product teams also depending on that page with >>>>>>>>> the table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>> I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every product to >>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-material/"jdf-arrival" should be valid. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are you saying that >>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will >>>>>>> redirect to >>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/? >>>>>>> And that page will contain the same contents that were on the >>>>>>> original site? >>>>>>> If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there? ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Nope! I said that http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com should redirect to >>>>>> an page (that needs to be created) at http://www.jboss.org that >>>>>> *explains* that JDF (with all Quickstarts, BOMs, Tutorials,etc) >>>>>> was moved to JBoss Developer materials and provide a button (or >>>>>> automatic redirect in x seconds) to >>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials >>>>>> >>>>>> Does everybody agrees with this approach ? >>>>> >>>>> I agree we need a redirect. But if the resulting page does not >>>>> contain the table of quickstarts as described in the README >>>>> files, I will get bug reports from QA. :-( >>>> That's why we need an "explain" page. Not only a single redirect ;) >>> >>> Okay. I guess the best approach for the community quicktarts is to >>> remove the entire paragraph. Do you agree? >> Oh yeah! Definitely! :) >>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the jdf-site@openshift >>>>>>>>>> redirect. >>>>>>>>>> But we can also but www.jboss.org/jdf to redirect to it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>> :/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at >>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf (or any other >>>>>>>>>>> jboss.org URL) with >>>>>>>>>>> a brief text similar to: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "JDF site was retired and all its content was moved to >>>>>>>>>>> JBoss Developer >>>>>>>>>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or click on >>>>>>>>>>> the button >>>>>>>>>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, Archetypes, >>>>>>>>>>> Tutorials, >>>>>>>>>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>> The only problem is that the page does not match what the >>>>>>>>>>>> text says. >>>>>>>>>>>> The text in the README says: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The list of all currently available quickstarts can be >>>>>>>>>>>> found here: >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>;. >>>>>>>>>>>> The table >>>>>>>>>>>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies it >>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrates, gives a >>>>>>>>>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and the level of >>>>>>>>>>>> experience >>>>>>>>>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed information about a >>>>>>>>>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> That page does not have a table with all the details. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper >>>>>>>>>>>>> redirect to >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we >>>>>>>>>>>>>> referenced >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can put redirects in place. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit when this change was made; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the pull: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the commit: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can remove the link from the community quickstarts, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but not from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were JIRAs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a download >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point to jdf-site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> URL for former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved to this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shipping product >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least the page >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it online here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing that is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the link that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> include the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken links? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore. Just the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search/result page. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this page for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's too late to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts anywhere >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >

1) Create the redirect from site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started to http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/#!formats=jbossdeveloper_quickst... - note that the layout=list-view doesn’t work atm, but will start to work

2) Don’t update the read me until you see what the list-view looks like. If we think then that the read me needs an update, do it then 3) If we want to create a page to explain the changes, this should be done at the SOURCE side (site-jdf) NOT the destination side.

On 1 Aug 2014, at 19:06, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > Removing that section of the README will be somewhat ugly. The table ton > that page not only listed the quickstarts, but the technologies each > demonstrated, the level of experience required, and whether there was a > prerequisite quickstart. Instead we will have to tell them to read the > metadata tags at the beginning of each quickstart README file to get > that information, which is really ugly. > > Rafael, is there any way we steal take the code you used to generate > that table for the JDF site and put it in a script to generate the HTML? > I could then check the HTML file into the > https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-developer-shared-resources/ web > site and we could redirect it there? > > Or, I could edit the README.html file I generate for the product version > of the quickstarts and check it into the shared site.j > > WDYT? > > > On 08/01/2014 01:17 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >> Em 8/1/14, 14:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>> On 08/01/2014 12:31 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:39, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:27 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:24, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>> Wasn't the quickstart table on >>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ the one >>>>>>>>> that included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss ON, and >>>>>>>>> other product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we added the >>>>>>>>> 'Target Product' metadata to the README files? >>>>>>>> Yes >>>>>>>>> Aren't other product teams also depending on that page with the >>>>>>>>> table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>> I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every product to >>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-material/"jdf-arrival" should be valid. >>>>>>> Are you saying that >>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will >>>>>>> redirect to >>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/? >>>>>>> And that page will contain the same contents that were on the >>>>>>> original site? >>>>>>> If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there? ;-) >>>>>> Nope! I said that http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com should redirect to >>>>>> an page (that needs to be created) at http://www.jboss.org that >>>>>> *explains* that JDF (with all Quickstarts, BOMs, Tutorials,etc) >>>>>> was moved to JBoss Developer materials and provide a button (or >>>>>> automatic redirect in x seconds) to >>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials >>>>>> >>>>>> Does everybody agrees with this approach ? >>>>> I agree we need a redirect. But if the resulting page does not >>>>> contain the table of quickstarts as described in the README files, >>>>> I will get bug reports from QA. :-( >>>> That's why we need an "explain" page. Not only a single redirect ;) >>> Okay. I guess the best approach for the community quicktarts is to >>> remove the entire paragraph. Do you agree? >> Oh yeah! Definitely! :) >>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the jdf-site@openshift >>>>>>>>>> redirect. >>>>>>>>>> But we can also but www.jboss.org/jdf to redirect to it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>> :/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at >>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf (or any other jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>> URL) with >>>>>>>>>>> a brief text similar to: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "JDF site was retired and all its content was moved to JBoss >>>>>>>>>>> Developer >>>>>>>>>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or click on the >>>>>>>>>>> button >>>>>>>>>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, Archetypes, >>>>>>>>>>> Tutorials, >>>>>>>>>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>> The only problem is that the page does not match what the >>>>>>>>>>>> text says. >>>>>>>>>>>> The text in the README says: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The list of all currently available quickstarts can be found >>>>>>>>>>>> here: >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>;. The >>>>>>>>>>>> table >>>>>>>>>>>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies it >>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrates, gives a >>>>>>>>>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and the level of >>>>>>>>>>>> experience >>>>>>>>>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed information about a >>>>>>>>>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> That page does not have a table with all the details. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper redirect to >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we >>>>>>>>>>>>>> referenced >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can put redirects in place. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit when this change was made; It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the pull: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the commit: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can remove the link from the community quickstarts, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JIRAs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a download >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point to jdf-site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" URL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved to this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shipping product >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least the page >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it online here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the link that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken links? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore. Just the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search/result page. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this page for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too late to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper > _______________________________________________ > jbossdeveloper mailing list > jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper

On 5 Aug 2014, at 13:53, Rafael Benevides <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > Em 8/5/14, 8:20, Pete Muir escreveu: >> 1) Create the redirect from site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started to http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/#!formats=jbossdeveloper_quickst... - note that the layout=list-view doesn’t work atm, but will start to work > Shouldn't we redirect the whole site-jdf ? These were the only ones that the docs seemed to reference. I don’t believe site-jdf shows up on google. So I don’t see a strong need.

>> 2) Don’t update the read me until you see what the list-view looks like. If we think then that the read me needs an update, do it then >> 3) If we want to create a page to explain the changes, this should be done at the SOURCE side (site-jdf) NOT the destination side. > This would increase the history of project/product What does this mean?

>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 19:06, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> >>> Removing that section of the README will be somewhat ugly. The table ton >>> that page not only listed the quickstarts, but the technologies each >>> demonstrated, the level of experience required, and whether there was a >>> prerequisite quickstart. Instead we will have to tell them to read the >>> metadata tags at the beginning of each quickstart README file to get >>> that information, which is really ugly. >>> >>> Rafael, is there any way we steal take the code you used to generate >>> that table for the JDF site and put it in a script to generate the HTML? >>> I could then check the HTML file into the >>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-developer-shared-resources/ web >>> site and we could redirect it there? >>> >>> Or, I could edit the README.html file I generate for the product version >>> of the quickstarts and check it into the shared site.j >>> >>> WDYT? >>> >>> >>> On 08/01/2014 01:17 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>> Em 8/1/14, 14:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>> On 08/01/2014 12:31 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:39, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:27 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:24, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>> Wasn't the quickstart table on >>>>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ the one >>>>>>>>>>> that included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss ON, and >>>>>>>>>>> other product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we added the >>>>>>>>>>> 'Target Product' metadata to the README files? >>>>>>>>>> Yes >>>>>>>>>>> Aren't other product teams also depending on that page with the >>>>>>>>>>> table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every product to >>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-material/"jdf-arrival" should be valid. >>>>>>>>> Are you saying that >>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will >>>>>>>>> redirect to >>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/? >>>>>>>>> And that page will contain the same contents that were on the >>>>>>>>> original site? >>>>>>>>> If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there? ;-) >>>>>>>> Nope! I said that http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com should redirect to >>>>>>>> an page (that needs to be created) at http://www.jboss.org that >>>>>>>> *explains* that JDF (with all Quickstarts, BOMs, Tutorials,etc) >>>>>>>> was moved to JBoss Developer materials and provide a button (or >>>>>>>> automatic redirect in x seconds) to >>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does everybody agrees with this approach ? >>>>>>> I agree we need a redirect. But if the resulting page does not >>>>>>> contain the table of quickstarts as described in the README files, >>>>>>> I will get bug reports from QA. :-( >>>>>> That's why we need an "explain" page. Not only a single redirect ;) >>>>> Okay. I guess the best approach for the community quicktarts is to >>>>> remove the entire paragraph. Do you agree? >>>> Oh yeah! Definitely! :) >>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the jdf-site@openshift >>>>>>>>>>>> redirect. >>>>>>>>>>>> But we can also but www.jboss.org/jdf to redirect to it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>> :/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at >>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf (or any other jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> URL) with >>>>>>>>>>>>> a brief text similar to: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "JDF site was retired and all its content was moved to JBoss >>>>>>>>>>>>> Developer >>>>>>>>>>>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or click on the >>>>>>>>>>>>> button >>>>>>>>>>>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, Archetypes, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tutorials, >>>>>>>>>>>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only problem is that the page does not match what the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> text says. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The text in the README says: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The list of all currently available quickstarts can be found >>>>>>>>>>>>>> here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>;. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>> table >>>>>>>>>>>>>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrates, gives a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and the level of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience >>>>>>>>>>>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed information about a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That page does not have a table with all the details. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper redirect to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referenced >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can put redirects in place. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit when this change was made; It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the pull: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the commit: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can remove the link from the community quickstarts, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JIRAs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a download >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point to jdf-site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" URL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved to this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shipping product >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least the page >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it online here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the link that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken links? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore. Just the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search/result page. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this page for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too late to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>> _______________________________________________ >>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper

On 5 Aug 2014, at 14:03, Rafael Benevides <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > We should fire a Jira for these. > > Em 8/5/14, 9:55, Pete Muir escreveu: >> On 5 Aug 2014, at 13:53, Rafael Benevides <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> >>> Em 8/5/14, 8:20, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>> 1) Create the redirect from site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started to http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/#!formats=jbossdeveloper_quickst... - note that the layout=list-view doesn’t work atm, but will start to work >>> Shouldn't we redirect the whole site-jdf ? >> These were the only ones that the docs seemed to reference. I don’t believe site-jdf shows up on google. So I don’t see a strong need. > Google has also results for http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/about/contributing/ the ranking is very low. Google will de-index it soon no it is a 404. >> >>>> 2) Don’t update the read me until you see what the list-view looks like. If we think then that the read me needs an update, do it then >>>> 3) If we want to create a page to explain the changes, this should be done at the SOURCE side (site-jdf) NOT the destination side. >>> This would increase the history of project/product >> What does this mean? > During the Loconia F2F meeting we talked a lot about the products having a history... It's this kind of history that I were talking about. > People should know from Red Hat that JDF become now JBoss Developer Materials. I know that it's implicit, but I would like to make it explicit. Yes, but it also decreases usability (those pages that make you click somewhere to get the real info you want are very annoying). >> >>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 19:06, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>> >>>>> Removing that section of the README will be somewhat ugly. The table ton >>>>> that page not only listed the quickstarts, but the technologies each >>>>> demonstrated, the level of experience required, and whether there was a >>>>> prerequisite quickstart. Instead we will have to tell them to read the >>>>> metadata tags at the beginning of each quickstart README file to get >>>>> that information, which is really ugly. >>>>> >>>>> Rafael, is there any way we steal take the code you used to generate >>>>> that table for the JDF site and put it in a script to generate the HTML? >>>>> I could then check the HTML file into the >>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-developer-shared-resources/ web >>>>> site and we could redirect it there? >>>>> >>>>> Or, I could edit the README.html file I generate for the product version >>>>> of the quickstarts and check it into the shared site.j >>>>> >>>>> WDYT? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 08/01/2014 01:17 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 14:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 12:31 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:39, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:27 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:24, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Wasn't the quickstart table on >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ the one >>>>>>>>>>>>> that included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss ON, and >>>>>>>>>>>>> other product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we added the >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Target Product' metadata to the README files? >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes >>>>>>>>>>>>> Aren't other product teams also depending on that page with the >>>>>>>>>>>>> table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every product to >>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-material/"jdf-arrival" should be valid. >>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying that >>>>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will >>>>>>>>>>> redirect to >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/? >>>>>>>>>>> And that page will contain the same contents that were on the >>>>>>>>>>> original site? >>>>>>>>>>> If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there? ;-) >>>>>>>>>> Nope! I said that http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com should redirect to >>>>>>>>>> an page (that needs to be created) at http://www.jboss.org that >>>>>>>>>> *explains* that JDF (with all Quickstarts, BOMs, Tutorials,etc) >>>>>>>>>> was moved to JBoss Developer materials and provide a button (or >>>>>>>>>> automatic redirect in x seconds) to >>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Does everybody agrees with this approach ? >>>>>>>>> I agree we need a redirect. But if the resulting page does not >>>>>>>>> contain the table of quickstarts as described in the README files, >>>>>>>>> I will get bug reports from QA. :-( >>>>>>>> That's why we need an "explain" page. Not only a single redirect ;) >>>>>>> Okay. I guess the best approach for the community quicktarts is to >>>>>>> remove the entire paragraph. Do you agree? >>>>>> Oh yeah! Definitely! :) >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the jdf-site@openshift >>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirect. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But we can also but www.jboss.org/jdf to redirect to it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf (or any other jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> URL) with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a brief text similar to: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "JDF site was retired and all its content was moved to JBoss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Developer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or click on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, Archetypes, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tutorials, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only problem is that the page does not match what the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text says. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The text in the README says: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The list of all currently available quickstarts can be found >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>;. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> table >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrates, gives a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and the level of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed information about a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That page does not have a table with all the details. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper redirect to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referenced >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can put redirects in place. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit when this change was made; It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the pull: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the commit: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can remove the link from the community quickstarts, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JIRAs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a download >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point to jdf-site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" URL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved to this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shipping product >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least the page >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it online here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the link that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken links? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore. Just the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search/result page. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this page for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too late to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >

I liked that :) So I'll start the jdf-site@openshift and provide the redirect on site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started only Em 8/5/14, 10:17, Pete Muir escreveu: > Could add a dismissible banner to the inbound page on jboss.org if they come off a JDF URL. > > On 5 Aug 2014, at 14:17, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > >> On 5 Aug 2014, at 14:03, Rafael Benevides <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> >>> We should fire a Jira for these. >>> >>> Em 8/5/14, 9:55, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>> On 5 Aug 2014, at 13:53, Rafael Benevides <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>> >>>>> Em 8/5/14, 8:20, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>> 1) Create the redirect from site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started to http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/#!formats=jbossdeveloper_quickst... - note that the layout=list-view doesn’t work atm, but will start to work >>>>> Shouldn't we redirect the whole site-jdf ? >>>> These were the only ones that the docs seemed to reference. I don’t believe site-jdf shows up on google. So I don’t see a strong need. >>> Google has also results for http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/about/contributing/ >> the ranking is very low. Google will de-index it soon no it is a 404. >> >>>>>> 2) Don’t update the read me until you see what the list-view looks like. If we think then that the read me needs an update, do it then >>>>>> 3) If we want to create a page to explain the changes, this should be done at the SOURCE side (site-jdf) NOT the destination side. >>>>> This would increase the history of project/product >>>> What does this mean? >>> During the Loconia F2F meeting we talked a lot about the products having a history... It's this kind of history that I were talking about. >>> People should know from Red Hat that JDF become now JBoss Developer Materials. I know that it's implicit, but I would like to make it explicit. >> Yes, but it also decreases usability (those pages that make you click somewhere to get the real info you want are very annoying). >> >>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 19:06, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Removing that section of the README will be somewhat ugly. The table ton >>>>>>> that page not only listed the quickstarts, but the technologies each >>>>>>> demonstrated, the level of experience required, and whether there was a >>>>>>> prerequisite quickstart. Instead we will have to tell them to read the >>>>>>> metadata tags at the beginning of each quickstart README file to get >>>>>>> that information, which is really ugly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rafael, is there any way we steal take the code you used to generate >>>>>>> that table for the JDF site and put it in a script to generate the HTML? >>>>>>> I could then check the HTML file into the >>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-developer-shared-resources/ web >>>>>>> site and we could redirect it there? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Or, I could edit the README.html file I generate for the product version >>>>>>> of the quickstarts and check it into the shared site.j >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WDYT? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 01:17 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 14:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 12:31 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:39, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:27 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:24, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wasn't the quickstart table on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss ON, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we added the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Target Product' metadata to the README files? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aren't other product teams also depending on that page with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every product to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-material/"jdf-arrival" should be valid. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying that >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will >>>>>>>>>>>>> redirect to >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/? >>>>>>>>>>>>> And that page will contain the same contents that were on the >>>>>>>>>>>>> original site? >>>>>>>>>>>>> If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there? ;-) >>>>>>>>>>>> Nope! I said that http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com should redirect to >>>>>>>>>>>> an page (that needs to be created) at http://www.jboss.org that >>>>>>>>>>>> *explains* that JDF (with all Quickstarts, BOMs, Tutorials,etc) >>>>>>>>>>>> was moved to JBoss Developer materials and provide a button (or >>>>>>>>>>>> automatic redirect in x seconds) to >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Does everybody agrees with this approach ? >>>>>>>>>>> I agree we need a redirect. But if the resulting page does not >>>>>>>>>>> contain the table of quickstarts as described in the README files, >>>>>>>>>>> I will get bug reports from QA. :-( >>>>>>>>>> That's why we need an "explain" page. Not only a single redirect ;) >>>>>>>>> Okay. I guess the best approach for the community quicktarts is to >>>>>>>>> remove the entire paragraph. Do you agree? >>>>>>>> Oh yeah! Definitely! :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the jdf-site@openshift >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirect. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But we can also but www.jboss.org/jdf to redirect to it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf (or any other jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> URL) with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a brief text similar to: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "JDF site was retired and all its content was moved to JBoss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Developer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or click on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, Archetypes, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tutorials, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only problem is that the page does not match what the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text says. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The text in the README says: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The list of all currently available quickstarts can be found >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>;. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> table >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrates, gives a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and the level of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed information about a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That page does not have a table with all the details. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper redirect to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referenced >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can put redirects in place. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit when this change was made; It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the pull: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the commit: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can remove the link from the community quickstarts, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JIRAs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a download >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point to jdf-site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" URL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved to this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shipping product >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least the page >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it online here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the link that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken links? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore. Just the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search/result page. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this page for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too late to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper

openshift site up and running with redirect. I'll work on banner now. Em 8/5/14, 10:26, Pete Muir escreveu: > Ok. Take a look at the product download page for dismissible banners > code. You will need to store that they have dismissed it once, so you > don’t show it on each visit to the page. > > On 5 Aug 2014, at 14:20, Rafael Benevides <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > >> I liked that :) >> >> So I'll start the jdf-site@openshift and provide the redirect on >> site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started only >> >> Em 8/5/14, 10:17, Pete Muir escreveu: >>> Could add a dismissible banner to the inbound page on jboss.org if >>> they come off a JDF URL. >>> >>> On 5 Aug 2014, at 14:17, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>>> On 5 Aug 2014, at 14:03, Rafael Benevides <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> We should fire a Jira for these. >>>>> >>>>> Em 8/5/14, 9:55, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>> On 5 Aug 2014, at 13:53, Rafael Benevides <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Em 8/5/14, 8:20, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>> 1) Create the redirect from >>>>>>>> site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started to >>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/#!formats=jbossdeveloper_quickst... >>>>>>>> - note that the layout=list-view doesn’t work atm, but will >>>>>>>> start to work >>>>>>> Shouldn't we redirect the whole site-jdf ? >>>>>> These were the only ones that the docs seemed to reference. I >>>>>> don’t believe site-jdf shows up on google. So I don’t see a >>>>>> strong need. >>>>> Google has also results for >>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/about/contributing/ >>>> the ranking is very low. Google will de-index it soon no it is a 404. >>>> >>>>>>>> 2) Don’t update the read me until you see what the list-view >>>>>>>> looks like. If we think then that the read me needs an update, >>>>>>>> do it then >>>>>>>> 3) If we want to create a page to explain the changes, this >>>>>>>> should be done at the SOURCE side (site-jdf) NOT the >>>>>>>> destination side. >>>>>>> This would increase the history of project/product >>>>>> What does this mean? >>>>> During the Loconia F2F meeting we talked a lot about the products >>>>> having a history... It's this kind of history that I were talking >>>>> about. >>>>> People should know from Red Hat that JDF become now JBoss >>>>> Developer Materials. I know that it's implicit, but I would like >>>>> to make it explicit. >>>> Yes, but it also decreases usability (those pages that make you >>>> click somewhere to get the real info you want are very annoying). >>>> >>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 19:06, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Removing that section of the README will be somewhat ugly. >>>>>>>>> The table ton >>>>>>>>> that page not only listed the quickstarts, but the >>>>>>>>> technologies each >>>>>>>>> demonstrated, the level of experience required, and whether >>>>>>>>> there was a >>>>>>>>> prerequisite quickstart. Instead we will have to tell them to >>>>>>>>> read the >>>>>>>>> metadata tags at the beginning of each quickstart README file >>>>>>>>> to get >>>>>>>>> that information, which is really ugly. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rafael, is there any way we steal take the code you used to >>>>>>>>> generate >>>>>>>>> that table for the JDF site and put it in a script to >>>>>>>>> generate the HTML? >>>>>>>>> I could then check the HTML file into the >>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-developer-shared-resources/ >>>>>>>>> web >>>>>>>>> site and we could redirect it there? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Or, I could edit the README.html file I generate for the >>>>>>>>> product version >>>>>>>>> of the quickstarts and check it into the shared site.j >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> WDYT? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 01:17 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 14:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 12:31 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:39, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:27 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:24, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wasn't the quickstart table on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ON, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> added the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Target Product' metadata to the README files? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aren't other product teams also depending on that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> product to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-material/"jdf-arrival" should >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be valid. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirect to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that page will contain the same contents that were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original site? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there? ;-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope! I said that http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com should >>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirect to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> an page (that needs to be created) at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *explains* that JDF (with all Quickstarts, BOMs, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tutorials,etc) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was moved to JBoss Developer materials and provide a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> button (or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> automatic redirect in x seconds) to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does everybody agrees with this approach ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree we need a redirect. But if the resulting page >>>>>>>>>>>>> does not >>>>>>>>>>>>> contain the table of quickstarts as described in the >>>>>>>>>>>>> README files, >>>>>>>>>>>>> I will get bug reports from QA. :-( >>>>>>>>>>>> That's why we need an "explain" page. Not only a single >>>>>>>>>>>> redirect ;) >>>>>>>>>>> Okay. I guess the best approach for the community >>>>>>>>>>> quicktarts is to >>>>>>>>>>> remove the entire paragraph. Do you agree? >>>>>>>>>> Oh yeah! Definitely! :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jdf-site@openshift >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirect. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But we can also but www.jboss.org/jdf to redirect to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf (or any other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> URL) with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a brief text similar to: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "JDF site was retired and all its content was moved >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to JBoss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Developer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> click on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Archetypes, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tutorials, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only problem is that the page does not match >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text says. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The text in the README says: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The list of all currently available quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can be found >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>;. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> table >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrates, gives a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and the level of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information about a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That page does not have a table with all the details. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirect to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referenced >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can put redirects in place. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit when this change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was made; It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the pull: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the commit: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can remove the link from the community >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JIRAs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point to jdf-site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "sandbox" URL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved to this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shipping product >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shipping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up, or at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least the page >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it online here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actual thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the link that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that include >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken links? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore. Just the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search/result page. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this page for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6.3 and it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too late to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to look >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper

On 5 Aug 2014, at 15:27, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > Sorry, I've been tied up with EAP 6.3 GA issues and meetings all morning, but just read through this thread. I just want to make sure I understand. > > This new redirect page [1] will eventually provide a table listing the quickstarts along with the metadata such as the technologies they use, the level of experience required, and whether they have a prerequisite? No. This will be an optional view on www.jboss.org/developer-materials. The redirect will go directly to this view.

> On 08/05/2014 09:44 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >> openshift site up and running with redirect. I'll work on banner now. >> >> Em 8/5/14, 10:26, Pete Muir escreveu: >>> Ok. Take a look at the product download page for dismissible banners code. You will need to store that they have dismissed it once, so you don’t show it on each visit to the page. >>> >>> On 5 Aug 2014, at 14:20, Rafael Benevides <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>>> I liked that :) >>>> >>>> So I'll start the jdf-site@openshift and provide the redirect on site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started only >>>> >>>> Em 8/5/14, 10:17, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>> Could add a dismissible banner to the inbound page on jboss.org if they come off a JDF URL. >>>>> >>>>> On 5 Aug 2014, at 14:17, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 5 Aug 2014, at 14:03, Rafael Benevides <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> We should fire a Jira for these. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Em 8/5/14, 9:55, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>> On 5 Aug 2014, at 13:53, Rafael Benevides <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Em 8/5/14, 8:20, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>> 1) Create the redirect from site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started to http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/#!formats=jbossdeveloper_quickst... - note that the layout=list-view doesn’t work atm, but will start to work >>>>>>>>> Shouldn't we redirect the whole site-jdf ? >>>>>>>> These were the only ones that the docs seemed to reference. I don’t believe site-jdf shows up on google. So I don’t see a strong need. >>>>>>> Google has also results for http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/about/contributing/ >>>>>> the ranking is very low. Google will de-index it soon no it is a 404. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2) Don’t update the read me until you see what the list-view looks like. If we think then that the read me needs an update, do it then >>>>>>>>>> 3) If we want to create a page to explain the changes, this should be done at the SOURCE side (site-jdf) NOT the destination side. >>>>>>>>> This would increase the history of project/product >>>>>>>> What does this mean? >>>>>>> During the Loconia F2F meeting we talked a lot about the products having a history... It's this kind of history that I were talking about. >>>>>>> People should know from Red Hat that JDF become now JBoss Developer Materials. I know that it's implicit, but I would like to make it explicit. >>>>>> Yes, but it also decreases usability (those pages that make you click somewhere to get the real info you want are very annoying). >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 19:06, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Removing that section of the README will be somewhat ugly. The table ton >>>>>>>>>>> that page not only listed the quickstarts, but the technologies each >>>>>>>>>>> demonstrated, the level of experience required, and whether there was a >>>>>>>>>>> prerequisite quickstart. Instead we will have to tell them to read the >>>>>>>>>>> metadata tags at the beginning of each quickstart README file to get >>>>>>>>>>> that information, which is really ugly. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Rafael, is there any way we steal take the code you used to generate >>>>>>>>>>> that table for the JDF site and put it in a script to generate the HTML? >>>>>>>>>>> I could then check the HTML file into the >>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-developer-shared-resources/ web >>>>>>>>>>> site and we could redirect it there? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Or, I could edit the README.html file I generate for the product version >>>>>>>>>>> of the quickstarts and check it into the shared site.j >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> WDYT? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 01:17 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 14:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 12:31 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:39, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:27 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:24, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wasn't the quickstart table on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss ON, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we added the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Target Product' metadata to the README files? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aren't other product teams also depending on that page with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every product to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-material/"jdf-arrival" should be valid. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirect to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that page will contain the same contents that were on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original site? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there? ;-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope! I said that http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com should redirect to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an page (that needs to be created) at http://www.jboss.org that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *explains* that JDF (with all Quickstarts, BOMs, Tutorials,etc) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was moved to JBoss Developer materials and provide a button (or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> automatic redirect in x seconds) to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does everybody agrees with this approach ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree we need a redirect. But if the resulting page does not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contain the table of quickstarts as described in the README files, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will get bug reports from QA. :-( >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's why we need an "explain" page. Not only a single redirect ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay. I guess the best approach for the community quicktarts is to >>>>>>>>>>>>> remove the entire paragraph. Do you agree? >>>>>>>>>>>> Oh yeah! Definitely! :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the jdf-site@openshift >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirect. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But we can also but www.jboss.org/jdf to redirect to it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf (or any other jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> URL) with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a brief text similar to: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "JDF site was retired and all its content was moved to JBoss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Developer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or click on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, Archetypes, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tutorials, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only problem is that the page does not match what the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text says. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The text in the README says: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The list of all currently available quickstarts can be found >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>;. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> table >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrates, gives a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and the level of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed information about a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That page does not have a table with all the details. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper redirect to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referenced >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can put redirects in place. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit when this change was made; It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the pull: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the commit: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can remove the link from the community quickstarts, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JIRAs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a download >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point to jdf-site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" URL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved to this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shipping product >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least the page >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it online here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the link that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken links? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore. Just the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search/result page. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this page for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too late to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper

On 5 Aug 2014, at 15:27, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > Sorry, I've been tied up with EAP 6.3 GA issues and meetings all morning, but just read through this thread. I just want to make sure I understand. > > This new redirect page [1] will eventually provide a table listing the quickstarts along with the metadata such as the technologies they use, the level of experience required, and whether they have a prerequisite? No. This will be an optional view on www.jboss.org/developer-materials. The redirect will go directly to this view. > On 08/05/2014 09:44 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >> openshift site up and running with redirect. I'll work on banner now. >> >> Em 8/5/14, 10:26, Pete Muir escreveu: >>> Ok. Take a look at the product download page for dismissible banners code. You will need to store that they have dismissed it once, so you don’t show it on each visit to the page. >>> >>> On 5 Aug 2014, at 14:20, Rafael Benevides <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>> >>>> I liked that :) >>>> >>>> So I'll start the jdf-site@openshift and provide the redirect on site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started only >>>> >>>> Em 8/5/14, 10:17, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>> Could add a dismissible banner to the inbound page on jboss.org if they come off a JDF URL. >>>>> >>>>> On 5 Aug 2014, at 14:17, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 5 Aug 2014, at 14:03, Rafael Benevides <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> We should fire a Jira for these. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Em 8/5/14, 9:55, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>> On 5 Aug 2014, at 13:53, Rafael Benevides <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Em 8/5/14, 8:20, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>> 1) Create the redirect from site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started to http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/#!formats=jbossdeveloper_quickst... - note that the layout=list-view doesn’t work atm, but will start to work >>>>>>>>> Shouldn't we redirect the whole site-jdf ? >>>>>>>> These were the only ones that the docs seemed to reference. I don’t believe site-jdf shows up on google. So I don’t see a strong need. >>>>>>> Google has also results for http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/about/contributing/ >>>>>> the ranking is very low. Google will de-index it soon no it is a 404. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2) Don’t update the read me until you see what the list-view looks like. If we think then that the read me needs an update, do it then >>>>>>>>>> 3) If we want to create a page to explain the changes, this should be done at the SOURCE side (site-jdf) NOT the destination side. >>>>>>>>> This would increase the history of project/product >>>>>>>> What does this mean? >>>>>>> During the Loconia F2F meeting we talked a lot about the products having a history... It's this kind of history that I were talking about. >>>>>>> People should know from Red Hat that JDF become now JBoss Developer Materials. I know that it's implicit, but I would like to make it explicit. >>>>>> Yes, but it also decreases usability (those pages that make you click somewhere to get the real info you want are very annoying). >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 19:06, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Removing that section of the README will be somewhat ugly. The table ton >>>>>>>>>>> that page not only listed the quickstarts, but the technologies each >>>>>>>>>>> demonstrated, the level of experience required, and whether there was a >>>>>>>>>>> prerequisite quickstart. Instead we will have to tell them to read the >>>>>>>>>>> metadata tags at the beginning of each quickstart README file to get >>>>>>>>>>> that information, which is really ugly. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Rafael, is there any way we steal take the code you used to generate >>>>>>>>>>> that table for the JDF site and put it in a script to generate the HTML? >>>>>>>>>>> I could then check the HTML file into the >>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-developer-shared-resources/ web >>>>>>>>>>> site and we could redirect it there? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Or, I could edit the README.html file I generate for the product version >>>>>>>>>>> of the quickstarts and check it into the shared site.j >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> WDYT? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 01:17 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 14:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 12:31 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:39, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:27 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:24, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wasn't the quickstart table on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss ON, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we added the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Target Product' metadata to the README files? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aren't other product teams also depending on that page with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every product to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-material/"jdf-arrival" should be valid. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirect to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that page will contain the same contents that were on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original site? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there? ;-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope! I said that http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com should redirect to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an page (that needs to be created) at http://www.jboss.org that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *explains* that JDF (with all Quickstarts, BOMs, Tutorials,etc) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was moved to JBoss Developer materials and provide a button (or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> automatic redirect in x seconds) to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does everybody agrees with this approach ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree we need a redirect. But if the resulting page does not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contain the table of quickstarts as described in the README files, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will get bug reports from QA. :-( >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's why we need an "explain" page. Not only a single redirect ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay. I guess the best approach for the community quicktarts is to >>>>>>>>>>>>> remove the entire paragraph. Do you agree? >>>>>>>>>>>> Oh yeah! Definitely! :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the jdf-site@openshift >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirect. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But we can also but www.jboss.org/jdf to redirect to it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf (or any other jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> URL) with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a brief text similar to: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "JDF site was retired and all its content was moved to JBoss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Developer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or click on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, Archetypes, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tutorials, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only problem is that the page does not match what the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text says. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The text in the README says: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The list of all currently available quickstarts can be found >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>;. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> table >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrates, gives a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and the level of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed information about a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That page does not have a table with all the details. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper redirect to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referenced >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can put redirects in place. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit when this change was made; It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the pull: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the commit: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can remove the link from the community quickstarts, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JIRAs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a download >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point to jdf-site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" URL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved to this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shipping product >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least the page >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it online here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the link that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken links? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore. Just the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search/result page. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this page for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too late to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper

Thanks for taking care of this so quickly! Today is EAP 6.3 GA ship and, even though the table is not there as described, the redirect looks MUCH better than a 404! :-) On 08/05/2014 09:44 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: > openshift site up and running with redirect. I'll work on banner now. > > Em 8/5/14, 10:26, Pete Muir escreveu: >> Ok. Take a look at the product download page for dismissible banners >> code. You will need to store that they have dismissed it once, so >> you don’t show it on each visit to the page. >> >> On 5 Aug 2014, at 14:20, Rafael Benevides <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> >>> I liked that :) >>> >>> So I'll start the jdf-site@openshift and provide the redirect on >>> site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started only >>> >>> Em 8/5/14, 10:17, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>> Could add a dismissible banner to the inbound page on jboss.org if >>>> they come off a JDF URL. >>>> >>>> On 5 Aug 2014, at 14:17, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 5 Aug 2014, at 14:03, Rafael Benevides <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We should fire a Jira for these. >>>>>> >>>>>> Em 8/5/14, 9:55, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>> On 5 Aug 2014, at 13:53, Rafael Benevides >>>>>>> <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Em 8/5/14, 8:20, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>> 1) Create the redirect from >>>>>>>>> site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started to >>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/#!formats=jbossdeveloper_quickst... >>>>>>>>> - note that the layout=list-view doesn’t work atm, but will >>>>>>>>> start to work >>>>>>>> Shouldn't we redirect the whole site-jdf ? >>>>>>> These were the only ones that the docs seemed to reference. I >>>>>>> don’t believe site-jdf shows up on google. So I don’t see a >>>>>>> strong need. >>>>>> Google has also results for >>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/about/contributing/ >>>>> the ranking is very low. Google will de-index it soon no it is a >>>>> 404. >>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2) Don’t update the read me until you see what the list-view >>>>>>>>> looks like. If we think then that the read me needs an >>>>>>>>> update, do it then >>>>>>>>> 3) If we want to create a page to explain the changes, this >>>>>>>>> should be done at the SOURCE side (site-jdf) NOT the >>>>>>>>> destination side. >>>>>>>> This would increase the history of project/product >>>>>>> What does this mean? >>>>>> During the Loconia F2F meeting we talked a lot about the >>>>>> products having a history... It's this kind of history that I >>>>>> were talking about. >>>>>> People should know from Red Hat that JDF become now JBoss >>>>>> Developer Materials. I know that it's implicit, but I would like >>>>>> to make it explicit. >>>>> Yes, but it also decreases usability (those pages that make you >>>>> click somewhere to get the real info you want are very annoying). >>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 19:06, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Removing that section of the README will be somewhat ugly. >>>>>>>>>> The table ton >>>>>>>>>> that page not only listed the quickstarts, but the >>>>>>>>>> technologies each >>>>>>>>>> demonstrated, the level of experience required, and whether >>>>>>>>>> there was a >>>>>>>>>> prerequisite quickstart. Instead we will have to tell them >>>>>>>>>> to read the >>>>>>>>>> metadata tags at the beginning of each quickstart README >>>>>>>>>> file to get >>>>>>>>>> that information, which is really ugly. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Rafael, is there any way we steal take the code you used to >>>>>>>>>> generate >>>>>>>>>> that table for the JDF site and put it in a script to >>>>>>>>>> generate the HTML? >>>>>>>>>> I could then check the HTML file into the >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-developer-shared-resources/ >>>>>>>>>> web >>>>>>>>>> site and we could redirect it there? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Or, I could edit the README.html file I generate for the >>>>>>>>>> product version >>>>>>>>>> of the quickstarts and check it into the shared site.j >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> WDYT? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 01:17 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 14:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 12:31 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:39, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:27 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:24, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wasn't the quickstart table on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PicketLink,JBoss ON, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> added the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Target Product' metadata to the README files? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aren't other product teams also depending on that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> product to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-material/"jdf-arrival" should >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be valid. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirect to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that page will contain the same contents that were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original site? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there? ;-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope! I said that http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com should >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirect to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an page (that needs to be created) at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *explains* that JDF (with all Quickstarts, BOMs, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tutorials,etc) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was moved to JBoss Developer materials and provide a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button (or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> automatic redirect in x seconds) to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does everybody agrees with this approach ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree we need a redirect. But if the resulting page >>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> contain the table of quickstarts as described in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> README files, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will get bug reports from QA. :-( >>>>>>>>>>>>> That's why we need an "explain" page. Not only a single >>>>>>>>>>>>> redirect ;) >>>>>>>>>>>> Okay. I guess the best approach for the community >>>>>>>>>>>> quicktarts is to >>>>>>>>>>>> remove the entire paragraph. Do you agree? >>>>>>>>>>> Oh yeah! Definitely! :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jdf-site@openshift >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirect. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But we can also but www.jboss.org/jdf to redirect >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf (or any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> URL) with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a brief text similar to: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "JDF site was retired and all its content was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved to JBoss >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Developer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> click on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Archetypes, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tutorials, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only problem is that the page does not match >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text says. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The text in the README says: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The list of all currently available quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can be found >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>;. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> table >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrates, gives a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information about a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That page does not have a table with all the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> details. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proper redirect to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referenced >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can put redirects in place. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit when this change >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was made; It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the pull: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the commit: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can remove the link from the community >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JIRAs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point to jdf-site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "sandbox" URL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jboss.org. Then it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved to this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shipping product >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shipping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up, or at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least the page >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it online here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actual thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - what is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the link that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that include >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken links? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore. Just the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search/result page. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this page for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6.3 and it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too late to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to look >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >

Ouch! Sorry I also missed the URL when I reviewed the PR Em 8/1/14, 10:18, Sande Gilda escreveu: > I found the pull and commit when this change was made; It was done on > October 2, 2013. > > * This was the pull: > https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642 > * This was the commit: > https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a... > > I can remove the link from the community quickstarts, but not from > the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts. > > On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote: >> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There were JIRAs related >> to that page, for example this one to add a download button: >> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228. >> >> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-( >> >> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both point to jdf-site >>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" URL for former >>> www.jboss.org/jdf site >>> >>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda&lt;sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote: >>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda&lt;sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it moved to this >>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking shipping product >>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping products at this >>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at least the page >>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts? >>>>>> Sande, what link is broken? >>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts: >>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j... >>>>> >>>>> You can see it online here: >>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel... >>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing that is broken. >>>> >>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is the link that >>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include the broken links? >>>> >>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts anymore. Just the >>>>>>>> search/result page. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to this page for the >>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. Unfortunately, the >>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's too late to >>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look really bad. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts anywhere else? >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Sande >> _______________________________________________ >> jbossdeveloper mailing list >> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >

I agree. It seems like we are missing a redirect. However, I'm interested to know where this is being linked from, to ensure the redirect still makes sense in that context. Paul. On 30 Jul 2014, at 13:28, Rafael Benevides <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: The whole /jdf site shouldn't be accessible and it should redirect to /developer-materials For the old JDF site, we keep a copy of it at openshift: http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/stack/plugin-jdf/ Em 7/30/14, 9:22, Paul Robinson escreveu: Max, How did you get to this page? Was it from your bookmark, or was it linked from somewhere? Paul. On 29 Jul 2014, at 08:19, Max Rydahl Andersen <manderse(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: hey, was looking for the old jdf pages and found this: http://jboss.org/jdf/stack/plugin-jdf/ it looks like some stylesheets is messed up ? /max http://about.me/maxandersen _______________________________________________ jbossdeveloper mailing list jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper Paul. -- Paul Robinson JBoss Developer Team Lead (www.jboss.org) JBoss, a Division of Red Hat Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. 03798903 Directors:Michael Cunningham (US), Charles Peters (US), Matt Parson (US), Paul Hickey (Ireland) _______________________________________________ jbossdeveloper mailing list jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper _______________________________________________ jbossdeveloper mailing list jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper Paul. -- Paul Robinson JBoss Developer Team Lead (www.jboss.org) JBoss, a Division of Red Hat Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. 03798903 Directors:Michael Cunningham (US), Charles Peters (US), Matt Parson (US), Paul Hickey (Ireland) _______________________________________________ jbossdeveloper mailing list jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper