Re: [jbossdeveloper] http://jboss.org/jdf/stack/plugin-jdf/ looks weird...

On 5 Aug 2014, at 13:53, Rafael Benevides <benevides(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > Em 8/5/14, 8:20, Pete Muir escreveu: >> 1) Create the redirect from site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started to http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/#!formats=jbossdeveloper_quickst... - note that the layout=list-view doesn’t work atm, but will start to work > Shouldn't we redirect the whole site-jdf ? These were the only ones that the docs seemed to reference. I don’t believe site-jdf shows up on google. So I don’t see a strong need.

>> 2) Don’t update the read me until you see what the list-view looks like. If we think then that the read me needs an update, do it then >> 3) If we want to create a page to explain the changes, this should be done at the SOURCE side (site-jdf) NOT the destination side. > This would increase the history of project/product What does this mean?

>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 19:06, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> >>> Removing that section of the README will be somewhat ugly. The table ton >>> that page not only listed the quickstarts, but the technologies each >>> demonstrated, the level of experience required, and whether there was a >>> prerequisite quickstart. Instead we will have to tell them to read the >>> metadata tags at the beginning of each quickstart README file to get >>> that information, which is really ugly. >>> >>> Rafael, is there any way we steal take the code you used to generate >>> that table for the JDF site and put it in a script to generate the HTML? >>> I could then check the HTML file into the >>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-developer-shared-resources/ web >>> site and we could redirect it there? >>> >>> Or, I could edit the README.html file I generate for the product version >>> of the quickstarts and check it into the shared site.j >>> >>> WDYT? >>> >>> >>> On 08/01/2014 01:17 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>> Em 8/1/14, 14:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>> On 08/01/2014 12:31 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:39, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:27 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:24, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>> Wasn't the quickstart table on >>>>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ the one >>>>>>>>>>> that included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss ON, and >>>>>>>>>>> other product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we added the >>>>>>>>>>> 'Target Product' metadata to the README files? >>>>>>>>>> Yes >>>>>>>>>>> Aren't other product teams also depending on that page with the >>>>>>>>>>> table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every product to >>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-material/"jdf-arrival" should be valid. >>>>>>>>> Are you saying that >>>>>>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will >>>>>>>>> redirect to >>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/? >>>>>>>>> And that page will contain the same contents that were on the >>>>>>>>> original site? >>>>>>>>> If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there? ;-) >>>>>>>> Nope! I said that http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com should redirect to >>>>>>>> an page (that needs to be created) at http://www.jboss.org that >>>>>>>> *explains* that JDF (with all Quickstarts, BOMs, Tutorials,etc) >>>>>>>> was moved to JBoss Developer materials and provide a button (or >>>>>>>> automatic redirect in x seconds) to >>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does everybody agrees with this approach ? >>>>>>> I agree we need a redirect. But if the resulting page does not >>>>>>> contain the table of quickstarts as described in the README files, >>>>>>> I will get bug reports from QA. :-( >>>>>> That's why we need an "explain" page. Not only a single redirect ;) >>>>> Okay. I guess the best approach for the community quicktarts is to >>>>> remove the entire paragraph. Do you agree? >>>> Oh yeah! Definitely! :) >>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the jdf-site@openshift >>>>>>>>>>>> redirect. >>>>>>>>>>>> But we can also but www.jboss.org/jdf to redirect to it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>> :/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at >>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf (or any other jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> URL) with >>>>>>>>>>>>> a brief text similar to: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "JDF site was retired and all its content was moved to JBoss >>>>>>>>>>>>> Developer >>>>>>>>>>>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or click on the >>>>>>>>>>>>> button >>>>>>>>>>>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, Archetypes, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tutorials, >>>>>>>>>>>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only problem is that the page does not match what the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> text says. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The text in the README says: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The list of all currently available quickstarts can be found >>>>>>>>>>>>>> here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>;. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>> table >>>>>>>>>>>>>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrates, gives a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and the level of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience >>>>>>>>>>>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed information about a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That page does not have a table with all the details. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper redirect to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referenced >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can put redirects in place. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit when this change was made; It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the pull: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the commit: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can remove the link from the community quickstarts, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JIRAs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a download >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point to jdf-site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" URL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for former >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved to this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shipping product >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least the page >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it online here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the link that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken links? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore. Just the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search/result page. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this page for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too late to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>> _______________________________________________ >>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper