- note that the layout=list-view doesn’t work atm, but will start to work
2) Don’t update the read me until you see what the list-view looks like. If we think then
that the read me needs an update, do it then
3) If we want to create a page to explain the changes, this should be done at the SOURCE
side (site-jdf) NOT the destination side.
On 1 Aug 2014, at 19:06, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com> wrote:
Removing that section of the README will be somewhat ugly. The table
ton
that page not only listed the quickstarts, but the technologies each
demonstrated, the level of experience required, and whether there was a
prerequisite quickstart. Instead we will have to tell them to read the
metadata tags at the beginning of each quickstart README file to get
that information, which is really ugly.
Rafael, is there any way we steal take the code you used to generate
that table for the JDF site and put it in a script to generate the HTML?
I could then check the HTML file into the
https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-developer-shared-resources/ web
site and we could redirect it there?
Or, I could edit the README.html file I generate for the product version
of the quickstarts and check it into the shared site.j
WDYT?
On 08/01/2014 01:17 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>
> Em 8/1/14, 14:15, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>
>> On 08/01/2014 12:31 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>
>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:39, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>
>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:27 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:24, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>> Wasn't the quickstart table on
>>>>>>>>
http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ the
one
>>>>>>>> that included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss ON,
and
>>>>>>>> other product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we added
the
>>>>>>>> 'Target Product' metadata to the README files?
>>>>>>> Yes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Aren't other product teams also depending on that
page with the
>>>>>>>> table of quickstarts?
>>>>>>> I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every product
to
>>>>>>>
www.jboss.org/developer-material/"jdf-arrival"
should be valid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you saying that
>>>>>>
http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will
>>>>>> redirect to
>>>>>>
http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/?
>>>>>> And that page will contain the same contents that were on the
>>>>>> original site?
>>>>>> If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there? ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope! I said that
http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com should redirect to
>>>>> an page (that needs to be created) at
http://www.jboss.org that
>>>>> *explains* that JDF (with all Quickstarts, BOMs, Tutorials,etc)
>>>>> was moved to JBoss Developer materials and provide a button (or
>>>>> automatic redirect in x seconds) to
>>>>>
http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials
>>>>>
>>>>> Does everybody agrees with this approach ?
>>>>
>>>> I agree we need a redirect. But if the resulting page does not
>>>> contain the table of quickstarts as described in the README files,
>>>> I will get bug reports from QA. :-(
>>> That's why we need an "explain" page. Not only a single
redirect ;)
>>
>> Okay. I guess the best approach for the community quicktarts is to
>> remove the entire paragraph. Do you agree?
> Oh yeah! Definitely! :)
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the
jdf-site@openshift
>>>>>>>>> redirect.
>>>>>>>>> But we can also but
www.jboss.org/jdf to redirect to
it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>> :/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at
>>>>>>>>>>
www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf (or any
other
jboss.org
>>>>>>>>>> URL) with
>>>>>>>>>> a brief text similar to:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "JDF site was retired and all its content
was moved to JBoss
>>>>>>>>>> Developer
>>>>>>>>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or
click on the
>>>>>>>>>> button
>>>>>>>>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS,
Archetypes,
>>>>>>>>>> Tutorials,
>>>>>>>>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>> The only problem is that the page does not
match what the
>>>>>>>>>>> text says.
>>>>>>>>>>> The text in the README says:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The list of all currently available
quickstarts can be found
>>>>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>>>>>
<
http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>. The
>>>>>>>>>>> table
>>>>>>>>>>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies
it
>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrates, gives a
>>>>>>>>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and the
level of
>>>>>>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>>>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed
information about a
>>>>>>>>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That page does not have a table with all the
details.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put
the proper redirect to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive
list of URLs that we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> referenced
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can put redirects in place.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda
<sgilda(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit when
this change was made; It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the pull:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the commit:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can remove the link from the
community quickstarts, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product
quickstarts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande
Gilda wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that
it was a sandbox. There were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JIRAs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to that page, for example
this one to add a download
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do
about this one. :-(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM,
Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta
and 6.2.0.Final and both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point to jdf-site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at openshift which was
supposed to be the "sandbox" URL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for former
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
www.jboss.org/jdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete
Muir escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at
13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014
08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug
2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<sgilda(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Originally we had the table on
jboss.org. Then it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved to
this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We
keep changing things out and breaking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shipping
product
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links and
I can't change anything in the shipping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products
at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is
it possible to leave the site up, or at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least the
page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the
table of quickstarts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what
link is broken?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README
file in the shipping quickstarts:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it
online here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the
source file, not the actual thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said
"breaking shipping product links” - what is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the link that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give
me some example docs that include
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken links?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We
don't have that table with all quickstarts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
anymore. Just the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
search/result page.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em
8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hi Rafael,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I'm sorry. I missed this discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The root README for the quickstarts points to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
this page for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
list of all the available quickstart.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Unfortunately, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
too late to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
change it, so the broken link is going to look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
really bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
anywhere
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
else?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Sande
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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