Re: [jbossdeveloper] http://jboss.org/jdf/stack/plugin-jdf/ looks weird...

On 1 Aug 2014, at 16:39, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com <mailto:sgilda@redhat.com>> wrote: > > On 08/01/2014 11:27 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >> >> Em 8/1/14, 12:24, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>> >>> On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>> >>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>> Wasn't the quickstart table on >>>>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ the one that >>>>> included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss ON, and other >>>>> product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we added the 'Target >>>>> Product' metadata to the README files? >>>> Yes >>>>> >>>>> Aren't other product teams also depending on that page with the >>>>> table of quickstarts? >>>> I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every product to >>>> www.jboss.org/developer-material/ >>>> <http://www.jboss.org/developer-material/>"jdf-arrival" should be >>>> valid. >>> >>> Are you saying that >>> http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will redirect to >>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/? >>> And that page will contain the same contents that were on the >>> original site? >>> If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there? ;-) >> >> Nope! I said that http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com should redirect to an >> page (that needs to be created) at http://www.jboss.org that >> *explains* that JDF (with all Quickstarts, BOMs, Tutorials,etc) was >> moved to JBoss Developer materials and provide a button (or automatic >> redirect in x seconds) to http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials >> >> Does everybody agrees with this approach ? > > I agree we need a redirect. But if the resulting page does not contain > the table of quickstarts as described in the README files, I will get > bug reports from QA. :-( We came up with a plan for this in Edinburgh. It's basically a list view option with a choice on how many items per page to display. It'll be in a jira issue soon so you can comment. We will also have a wireframe and/or mockup available for you to review.

> >>>>> >>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the jdf-site@openshift >>>>>> redirect. >>>>>> But we can also but www.jboss.org/jdf <http://www.jboss.org/jdf> >>>>>> to redirect to it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu: >>>>>>> :/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at >>>>>>> www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf >>>>>>> <http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf> (or any other >>>>>>> jboss.org <http://jboss.org> >>>>>>> URL) with >>>>>>> a brief text similar to: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "JDF site was retired and all its content was moved to JBoss >>>>>>> Developer >>>>>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly (or click on the >>>>>>> button >>>>>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS, Archetypes, >>>>>>> Tutorials, >>>>>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>> The only problem is that the page does not match what the text >>>>>>>> says. >>>>>>>> The text in the README says: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The list of all currently available quickstarts can be found here: >>>>>>>> <http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>;. The table >>>>>>>> lists each quickstart name, the technologies it demonstrates, >>>>>>>> gives a >>>>>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and the level of experience >>>>>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed information about a >>>>>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart name. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That page does not have a table with all the details. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and put the proper redirect to >>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>> Sande, do you have a comprehensive list of URLs that we >>>>>>>>>> referenced >>>>>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We can put redirects in place. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit when this change was made; It was >>>>>>>>>>> done >>>>>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013. >>>>>>>>>>> • This was the pull: >>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> • This was the commit: >>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I can remove the link from the community quickstarts, but not >>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3 product quickstarts. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande Gilda wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware that it was a sandbox. There were JIRAs >>>>>>>>>>>> related >>>>>>>>>>>> to that page, for example this one to add a download button: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228 >>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about this one. :-( >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked 6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both point to >>>>>>>>>>>>> jdf-site >>>>>>>>>>>>> at openshift which was supposed to be the "sandbox" URL for >>>>>>>>>>>>> former >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> www.jboss.org/jdf >>>>>>>>>>>>> site >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete Muir escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:25, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Originally we had the table on jboss.org. Then it moved >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site. We keep changing things out and breaking shipping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> product >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links and I can't change anything in the shipping >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> products at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at least >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the page >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the table of quickstarts? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, what link is broken? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README file in the shipping quickstarts: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it online here: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the source file, not the actual thing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said "breaking shipping product links” - what is the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> link that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you give me some example docs that include the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken links? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't have that table with all quickstarts anymore. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search/result page. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry. I missed this discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root README for the quickstarts points to this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list of all the available quickstart. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and it's too >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> late to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change it, so the broken link is going to look really >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bad. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we provide the table with all the quickstarts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>> <mailto:jbossdeveloper@lists.jboss.org> >>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> jbossdeveloper mailing list >>>>>> jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>> <mailto:jbossdeveloper@lists.jboss.org> >>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > jbossdeveloper mailing list > jbossdeveloper(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:jbossdeveloper@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossdeveloper Paul. -- Paul Robinson JBoss Developer Team Lead (www.jboss.org <http://www.jboss.org>) JBoss, a Division of Red Hat Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. 03798903 Directors:Michael Cunningham (US), Charles Peters (US), Matt Parson (US), Paul Hickey (Ireland)