I agree. This information is pretty important for developers and I hate
to lose it.
On 08/01/2014 02:09 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
I'm not sure. I think it worth a discussion with Pete, Paul and
Catherine also.
Em 8/1/14, 15:06, Sande Gilda escreveu:
> Removing that section of the README will be somewhat ugly. The table
> ton that page not only listed the quickstarts, but the technologies
> each demonstrated, the level of experience required, and whether
> there was a prerequisite quickstart. Instead we will have to tell
> them to read the metadata tags at the beginning of each quickstart
> README file to get that information, which is really ugly.
>
> Rafael, is there any way we steal take the code you used to generate
> that table for the JDF site and put it in a script to generate the
> HTML? I could then check the HTML file into the
>
https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-developer-shared-resources/
> web site and we could redirect it there?
>
> Or, I could edit the README.html file I generate for the product
> version of the quickstarts and check it into the shared site.
>
> WDYT?
>
>
> On 08/01/2014 01:17 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>
>> Em 8/1/14, 14:15, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>
>>> On 08/01/2014 12:31 PM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:39, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:27 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:24, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:16 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:14, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>>> Wasn't the quickstart table on
>>>>>>>>>
http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/
the one
>>>>>>>>> that included all the EAP, WFK, JDG, PicketLink,JBoss
ON, and
>>>>>>>>> other product quickstarts? Wasnt that the reason we
added the
>>>>>>>>> 'Target Product' metadata to the README
files?
>>>>>>>> Yes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Aren't other product teams also depending on that
page with
>>>>>>>>> the table of quickstarts?
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure here. Anyway the redirect for every
product to
>>>>>>>>
www.jboss.org/developer-material/"jdf-arrival"
should be valid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you saying that
>>>>>>>
http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/ will
>>>>>>> redirect to
>>>>>>>
http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/quickstarts/get-started/?
>>>>>>> And that page will contain the same contents that were on the
>>>>>>> original site?
>>>>>>> If that's the case, great! How soon will it be there?
;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope! I said that
http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com should redirect to
>>>>>> an page (that needs to be created) at
http://www.jboss.org that
>>>>>> *explains* that JDF (with all Quickstarts, BOMs, Tutorials,etc)
>>>>>> was moved to JBoss Developer materials and provide a button (or
>>>>>> automatic redirect in x seconds) to
>>>>>>
http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does everybody agrees with this approach ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree we need a redirect. But if the resulting page does not
>>>>> contain the table of quickstarts as described in the README
>>>>> files, I will get bug reports from QA. :-(
>>>> That's why we need an "explain" page. Not only a single
redirect ;)
>>>
>>> Okay. I guess the best approach for the community quicktarts is to
>>> remove the entire paragraph. Do you agree?
>> Oh yeah! Definitely! :)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 11:08 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Btw, the arrival page is achieved by the
jdf-site@openshift
>>>>>>>>>> redirect.
>>>>>>>>>> But we can also but
www.jboss.org/jdf to redirect
to it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:06, Rafael Benevides escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>> :/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should create an arrival page at
>>>>>>>>>>>
www.jboss.org/developer-materials/jdf (or any
other
>>>>>>>>>>>
jboss.org URL) with
>>>>>>>>>>> a brief text similar to:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "JDF site was retired and all its
content was moved to
>>>>>>>>>>> JBoss Developer
>>>>>>>>>>> Materials. You will be redirect automaticaly
(or click on
>>>>>>>>>>> the button
>>>>>>>>>>> bellow) to navigate on all quickstarts, BOMS,
Archetypes,
>>>>>>>>>>> Tutorials,
>>>>>>>>>>> etc..." - Rephrase needed!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 12:01, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>> The only problem is that the page does
not match what the
>>>>>>>>>>>> text says.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The text in the README says:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The list of all currently available
quickstarts can be
>>>>>>>>>>>> found here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
<
http://site-jdf.rhcloud.com/quickstarts/get-started/>.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The table
>>>>>>>>>>>> lists each quickstart name, the
technologies it
>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstrates, gives a
>>>>>>>>>>>> brief description of the quickstart, and
the level of
>>>>>>>>>>>> experience
>>>>>>>>>>>> required to set it up. For more detailed
information about a
>>>>>>>>>>>> quickstart, click on the quickstart
name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That page does not have a table with all
the details.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 10:56 AM, Rafael Benevides
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So +1 to not drop the jdf-site and
put the proper
>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirect to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://www.jboss.org/developer-materials/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 10:27, Pete Muir
escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande, do you have a
comprehensive list of URLs that we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referenced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on site-jdf.rhcloud.com?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can put redirects in place.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at 14:18, Sande
Gilda <sgilda(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found the pull and commit
when this change was made;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on October 2, 2013.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the pull:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/pull/642
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> • This was the commit:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/commit/6e8a48b3a...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can remove the link from
the community quickstarts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but not from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the JBoss EAP 6.2 or 6.3
product quickstarts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:44 AM, Sande
Gilda wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry. I was not aware
that it was a sandbox. There
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were JIRAs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to that page, for example
this one to add a download
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JDF-228
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure what to
do about this one. :-(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014 08:33 AM,
Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow! I checked
6.3.0.Beta and 6.2.0.Final and both
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point to jdf-site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at openshift which
was supposed to be the "sandbox"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> URL for former
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
www.jboss.org/jdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8/1/14, 9:27, Pete
Muir escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug 2014, at
13:25, Sande Gilda
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<sgilda(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/01/2014
08:22 AM, Pete Muir wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1 Aug
2014, at 13:21, Sande Gilda
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<sgilda(a)redhat.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Originally we had the table on
jboss.org. Then it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved
to this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site.
We keep changing things out and breaking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
shipping product
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> links
and I can't change anything in the shipping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
products at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
point. Is it possible to leave the site up, or at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least
the page
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
the table of quickstarts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sande,
what link is broken?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The root
README file in the shipping quickstarts:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://download.devel.redhat.com/devel/candidates/JBEAP/JBEAP-6.3.0.CR1/j...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see
it online here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://github.com/jboss-developer/jboss-eap-quickstarts/blob/6.3.x-devel...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is
the source file, not the actual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You said
"breaking shipping product links” - what is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the link that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaks? Can you
give me some example docs that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> include the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> broken links?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
08/01/2014 08:17 AM, Rafael Benevides wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
We don't have that table with all quickstarts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
anymore. Just the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
search/result page.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Em 8/1/14, 9:15, Sande Gilda escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hi Rafael,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I'm sorry. I missed this discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The root README for the quickstarts points to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
this page for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
list of all the available quickstart.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Unfortunately, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
quickstarts are frozen for JBoss EAP 6.3 and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
it's too late to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
change it, so the broken link is going to look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
really bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Do we provide the table with all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
quickstarts anywhere
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
else?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Sande
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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