9:57 a.m.
We're still trying to confirm things on our end, so it's still possible a wrong
assumption's been made somewhere, but it looks like session resources are lingering
with the http connection after the session has expired.
From one of the heap dumps, following session data that expired the
previous day back to a GC root:
http://imgur.com/Ov8xFy1
That's from a dump where the read-timeout was disabled.
We can set the read-timeout, but I don't know if the behavior of keep-alive will limit
the impact of the read timeout. After the reply has been created and sent, do the
particulars of the request or reply need to be kept beyond the expiry of the session they
were for?
Is there a way to disable keep-alive? In this particular instance it's more important
that the resources be freed up timely than it is that the server use keep-alive to give a
boost on performance..
//EricP
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3:46 p.m.
What version of undertow are you using?
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Eric Peters <epeters(a)epicor.com> wrote:
We’re still trying to confirm things on our end, so it’s still
possible
a wrong assumption’s been made somewhere, but it looks like session
resources are lingering with the http connection after the session has
expired.
From one of the heap dumps, following session data that expired the
previous day back to a GC root:
http://imgur.com/Ov8xFy1
That’s from a dump where the read-timeout was disabled.
We can set the read-timeout, but I don’t know if the behavior of
keep-alive will limit the impact of the read timeout. After the reply has
been created and sent, do the particulars of the request or reply need to
be kept beyond the expiry of the session they were for?
Is there a way to disable keep-alive? In this particular instance it’s
more important that the resources be freed up timely than it is that the
server use keep-alive to give a boost on performance..
//EricP
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I honestly was expecting the answer to that to be Undertow 1.1.4, but in double-checking I
found it’s on Undertow 1.1.0. Time I skim the patches from 1.1.0 on up to see if anything
could have addressed this.
Honestly, I’ve got two angles here:
1) I need a reliable solution which has a minimum of caveats. Updating in 1.1.x or
configuration changes preferred, but if patches are needed, so be it
2) Did we stumble on a shortcoming in Undertow? Honestly, I think this can be argued
both ways. If this has merit as a flaw, I’d like to get the find to the right people.
//EricP
From: Tomaž Cerar [mailto:tomaz.cerar@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:47 PM
To: Eric Peters
Cc: undertow-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
Subject: Re: [undertow-dev] Lingering session resources in keepalive
What version of undertow are you using?
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Eric Peters
<epeters@epicor.com<mailto:epeters@epicor.com>> wrote:
We’re still trying to confirm things on our end, so it’s still possible a wrong
assumption’s been made somewhere, but it looks like session resources are lingering with
the http connection after the session has expired.
From one of the heap dumps, following session data that expired the previous day back to a
GC root:
http://imgur.com/Ov8xFy1
That’s from a dump where the read-timeout was disabled.
We can set the read-timeout, but I don’t know if the behavior of keep-alive will limit the
impact of the read timeout. After the reply has been created and sent, do the particulars
of the request or reply need to be kept beyond the expiry of the session they were for?
Is there a way to disable keep-alive? In this particular instance it’s more important
that the resources be freed up timely than it is that the server use keep-alive to give a
boost on performance..
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This was fixed in Undertow 1.2:
https://github.com/undertow-io/undertow/commit/ca788df7f550513324f11ded15...
Stuart
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To: "Tomaž Cerar" <tomaz.cerar(a)gmail.com>
Cc: undertow-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
Sent: Friday, 19 June, 2015 12:10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [undertow-dev] Lingering session resources in keepalive
I honestly was expecting the answer to that to be Undertow 1.1.4, but in
double-checking I found it’s on Undertow 1.1.0. Time I skim the patches from
1.1.0 on up to see if anything could have addressed this.
Honestly, I’ve got two angles here:
1) I need a reliable solution which has a minimum of caveats. Updating in
1.1.x or configuration changes preferred, but if patches are needed, so be
it
2) Did we stumble on a shortcoming in Undertow? Honestly, I think this can be
argued both ways. If this has merit as a flaw, I’d like to get the find to
the right people.
//EricP
From: Tomaž Cerar [mailto:tomaz.cerar@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:47 PM
To: Eric Peters
Cc: undertow-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
Subject: Re: [undertow-dev] Lingering session resources in keepalive
What version of undertow are you using?
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Eric Peters < epeters(a)epicor.com > wrote:
We’re still trying to confirm things on our end, so it’s still possible a
wrong assumption’s been made somewhere, but it looks like session resources
are lingering with the http connection after the session has expired.
From one of the heap dumps, following session data that expired the previous
day back to a GC root:
http://imgur.com/Ov8xFy1
That’s from a dump where the read-timeout was disabled.
We can set the read-timeout, but I don’t know if the behavior of keep-alive
will limit the impact of the read timeout. After the reply has been created
and sent, do the particulars of the request or reply need to be kept beyond
the expiry of the session they were for?
Is there a way to disable keep-alive? In this particular instance it’s more
important that the resources be freed up timely than it is that the server
use keep-alive to give a boost on performance..
//EricP
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I have cut 1.1.5.Final with this fix, although you should look at upgrading to 1.2.8.Final
if possible.
Stuart
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To: "Eric Peters" <epeters(a)epicor.com>
Cc: undertow-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
Sent: Friday, 19 June, 2015 10:00:18 AM
Subject: Re: [undertow-dev] Lingering session resources in keepalive
This was fixed in Undertow 1.2:
https://github.com/undertow-io/undertow/commit/ca788df7f550513324f11ded15...
Stuart
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Peters" <epeters(a)epicor.com>
> To: "Tomaž Cerar" <tomaz.cerar(a)gmail.com>
> Cc: undertow-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> Sent: Friday, 19 June, 2015 12:10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [undertow-dev] Lingering session resources in keepalive
>
>
>
> I honestly was expecting the answer to that to be Undertow 1.1.4, but in
> double-checking I found it’s on Undertow 1.1.0. Time I skim the patches
> from
> 1.1.0 on up to see if anything could have addressed this.
>
>
>
> Honestly, I’ve got two angles here:
>
> 1) I need a reliable solution which has a minimum of caveats. Updating in
> 1.1.x or configuration changes preferred, but if patches are needed, so be
> it
>
> 2) Did we stumble on a shortcoming in Undertow? Honestly, I think this can
> be
> argued both ways. If this has merit as a flaw, I’d like to get the find to
> the right people.
>
>
>
> //EricP
>
>
>
> From: Tomaž Cerar [mailto:tomaz.cerar@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:47 PM
> To: Eric Peters
> Cc: undertow-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> Subject: Re: [undertow-dev] Lingering session resources in keepalive
>
>
>
>
> What version of undertow are you using?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Eric Peters < epeters(a)epicor.com > wrote:
>
>
> We’re still trying to confirm things on our end, so it’s still possible a
> wrong assumption’s been made somewhere, but it looks like session resources
> are lingering with the http connection after the session has expired.
>
>
>
> From one of the heap dumps, following session data that expired the
> previous
> day back to a GC root:
> http://imgur.com/Ov8xFy1
>
> That’s from a dump where the read-timeout was disabled.
>
>
>
> We can set the read-timeout, but I don’t know if the behavior of keep-alive
> will limit the impact of the read timeout. After the reply has been created
> and sent, do the particulars of the request or reply need to be kept beyond
> the expiry of the session they were for?
>
>
>
> Is there a way to disable keep-alive? In this particular instance it’s more
> important that the resources be freed up timely than it is that the server
> use keep-alive to give a boost on performance..
>
>
>
> //EricP
>
>
>
>
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Thanks for pulling the fix in for us.
We're trying to keep churn in our framework to a minimum, which is why we've kept
to the same branch that Wildfly 8.2 came with.
We had needed to move to Wildfly 8.2/Undertow, but as a result we've taken a hit from
the churn in the libraries. I'll look into the 1.2 branch, but I wouldn't count
on us making the move right away.
//EricP
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From: Stuart Douglas [mailto:sdouglas@redhat.com]
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 2:35 AM
To: Eric Peters
Cc: undertow-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
Subject: Re: [undertow-dev] Lingering session resources in keepalive
I have cut 1.1.5.Final with this fix, although you should look at upgrading to 1.2.8.Final
if possible.
Stuart
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From: "Stuart Douglas" <sdouglas(a)redhat.com>
To: "Eric Peters" <epeters(a)epicor.com>
Cc: undertow-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
Sent: Friday, 19 June, 2015 10:00:18 AM
Subject: Re: [undertow-dev] Lingering session resources in keepalive
This was fixed in Undertow 1.2:
https://github.com/undertow-io/undertow/commit/ca788df7f550513324f11de
d155e71f5f3219aa0
Stuart
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Peters" <epeters(a)epicor.com>
> To: "Tomaž Cerar" <tomaz.cerar(a)gmail.com>
> Cc: undertow-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> Sent: Friday, 19 June, 2015 12:10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [undertow-dev] Lingering session resources in keepalive
>
>
>
> I honestly was expecting the answer to that to be Undertow 1.1.4,
> but in double-checking I found it’s on Undertow 1.1.0. Time I skim
> the patches from
> 1.1.0 on up to see if anything could have addressed this.
>
>
>
> Honestly, I’ve got two angles here:
>
> 1) I need a reliable solution which has a minimum of caveats.
> Updating in 1.1.x or configuration changes preferred, but if patches
> are needed, so be it
>
> 2) Did we stumble on a shortcoming in Undertow? Honestly, I think
> this can be argued both ways. If this has merit as a flaw, I’d like
> to get the find to the right people.
>
>
>
> //EricP
>
>
>
> From: Tomaž Cerar [mailto:tomaz.cerar@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:47 PM
> To: Eric Peters
> Cc: undertow-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> Subject: Re: [undertow-dev] Lingering session resources in keepalive
>
>
>
>
> What version of undertow are you using?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Eric Peters < epeters(a)epicor.com > wrote:
>
>
> We’re still trying to confirm things on our end, so it’s still
> possible a wrong assumption’s been made somewhere, but it looks like
> session resources are lingering with the http connection after the session has
expired.
>
>
>
> From one of the heap dumps, following session data that expired the
> previous day back to a GC root:
> http://imgur.com/Ov8xFy1
>
> That’s from a dump where the read-timeout was disabled.
>
>
>
> We can set the read-timeout, but I don’t know if the behavior of
> keep-alive will limit the impact of the read timeout. After the
> reply has been created and sent, do the particulars of the request
> or reply need to be kept beyond the expiry of the session they were for?
>
>
>
> Is there a way to disable keep-alive? In this particular instance
> it’s more important that the resources be freed up timely than it is
> that the server use keep-alive to give a boost on performance..
>
>
>
> //EricP
>
>
>
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I'm trying to find references or doc for upgrading Undertow to 1.2.x in Wildfly 8.2,
but I'm not finding much - is this practical/safe? Or would it be better to upgrade
Wildfly?
//EricP
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Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 8:39 AM
To: Stuart Douglas
Cc: undertow-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
Subject: Re: [undertow-dev] Lingering session resources in keepalive
Thanks for pulling the fix in for us.
We're trying to keep churn in our framework to a minimum, which is why we've kept
to the same branch that Wildfly 8.2 came with.
We had needed to move to Wildfly 8.2/Undertow, but as a result we've taken a hit from
the churn in the libraries. I'll look into the 1.2 branch, but I wouldn't count
on us making the move right away.
//EricP
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From: Stuart Douglas [mailto:sdouglas@redhat.com]
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 2:35 AM
To: Eric Peters
Cc: undertow-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
Subject: Re: [undertow-dev] Lingering session resources in keepalive
I have cut 1.1.5.Final with this fix, although you should look at upgrading to 1.2.8.Final
if possible.
Stuart
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From: "Stuart Douglas" <sdouglas(a)redhat.com>
To: "Eric Peters" <epeters(a)epicor.com>
Cc: undertow-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
Sent: Friday, 19 June, 2015 10:00:18 AM
Subject: Re: [undertow-dev] Lingering session resources in keepalive
This was fixed in Undertow 1.2:
https://github.com/undertow-io/undertow/commit/ca788df7f550513324f11de
d155e71f5f3219aa0
Stuart
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Peters" <epeters(a)epicor.com>
> To: "Tomaž Cerar" <tomaz.cerar(a)gmail.com>
> Cc: undertow-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> Sent: Friday, 19 June, 2015 12:10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [undertow-dev] Lingering session resources in keepalive
>
>
>
> I honestly was expecting the answer to that to be Undertow 1.1.4,
> but in double-checking I found it’s on Undertow 1.1.0. Time I skim
> the patches from
> 1.1.0 on up to see if anything could have addressed this.
>
>
>
> Honestly, I’ve got two angles here:
>
> 1) I need a reliable solution which has a minimum of caveats.
> Updating in 1.1.x or configuration changes preferred, but if patches
> are needed, so be it
>
> 2) Did we stumble on a shortcoming in Undertow? Honestly, I think
> this can be argued both ways. If this has merit as a flaw, I’d like
> to get the find to the right people.
>
>
>
> //EricP
>
>
>
> From: Tomaž Cerar [mailto:tomaz.cerar@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:47 PM
> To: Eric Peters
> Cc: undertow-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> Subject: Re: [undertow-dev] Lingering session resources in keepalive
>
>
>
>
> What version of undertow are you using?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Eric Peters < epeters(a)epicor.com > wrote:
>
>
> We’re still trying to confirm things on our end, so it’s still
> possible a wrong assumption’s been made somewhere, but it looks like
> session resources are lingering with the http connection after the session has
expired.
>
>
>
> From one of the heap dumps, following session data that expired the
> previous day back to a GC root:
> http://imgur.com/Ov8xFy1
>
> That’s from a dump where the read-timeout was disabled.
>
>
>
> We can set the read-timeout, but I don’t know if the behavior of
> keep-alive will limit the impact of the read timeout. After the
> reply has been created and sent, do the particulars of the request
> or reply need to be kept beyond the expiry of the session they were for?
>
>
>
> Is there a way to disable keep-alive? In this particular instance
> it’s more important that the resources be freed up timely than it is
> that the server use keep-alive to give a boost on performance..
>
>
>
> //EricP
>
>
>
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Better to upgrade Wildfly, but it "should" be possible to just drop the newer
version of Undertow in.
Stuart
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To: "Eric Peters" <epeters(a)epicor.com>, "Stuart Douglas"
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Sent: Monday, 22 June, 2015 7:46:28 PM
Subject: RE: [undertow-dev] Lingering session resources in keepalive
I'm trying to find references or doc for upgrading Undertow to 1.2.x in
Wildfly 8.2, but I'm not finding much - is this practical/safe? Or would it
be better to upgrade Wildfly?
//EricP
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Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 8:39 AM
To: Stuart Douglas
Cc: undertow-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
Subject: Re: [undertow-dev] Lingering session resources in keepalive
Thanks for pulling the fix in for us.
We're trying to keep churn in our framework to a minimum, which is why we've
kept to the same branch that Wildfly 8.2 came with.
We had needed to move to Wildfly 8.2/Undertow, but as a result we've taken a
hit from the churn in the libraries. I'll look into the 1.2 branch, but I
wouldn't count on us making the move right away.
//EricP
-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart Douglas [mailto:sdouglas@redhat.com]
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 2:35 AM
To: Eric Peters
Cc: undertow-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
Subject: Re: [undertow-dev] Lingering session resources in keepalive
I have cut 1.1.5.Final with this fix, although you should look at upgrading
to 1.2.8.Final if possible.
Stuart
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stuart Douglas" <sdouglas(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Eric Peters" <epeters(a)epicor.com>
> Cc: undertow-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> Sent: Friday, 19 June, 2015 10:00:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [undertow-dev] Lingering session resources in keepalive
>
> This was fixed in Undertow 1.2:
> https://github.com/undertow-io/undertow/commit/ca788df7f550513324f11de
> d155e71f5f3219aa0
>
> Stuart
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eric Peters" <epeters(a)epicor.com>
> > To: "Tomaž Cerar" <tomaz.cerar(a)gmail.com>
> > Cc: undertow-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> > Sent: Friday, 19 June, 2015 12:10:12 AM
> > Subject: Re: [undertow-dev] Lingering session resources in keepalive
> >
> >
> >
> > I honestly was expecting the answer to that to be Undertow 1.1.4,
> > but in double-checking I found it’s on Undertow 1.1.0. Time I skim
> > the patches from
> > 1.1.0 on up to see if anything could have addressed this.
> >
> >
> >
> > Honestly, I’ve got two angles here:
> >
> > 1) I need a reliable solution which has a minimum of caveats.
> > Updating in 1.1.x or configuration changes preferred, but if patches
> > are needed, so be it
> >
> > 2) Did we stumble on a shortcoming in Undertow? Honestly, I think
> > this can be argued both ways. If this has merit as a flaw, I’d like
> > to get the find to the right people.
> >
> >
> >
> > //EricP
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Tomaž Cerar [mailto:tomaz.cerar@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:47 PM
> > To: Eric Peters
> > Cc: undertow-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> > Subject: Re: [undertow-dev] Lingering session resources in keepalive
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > What version of undertow are you using?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Eric Peters < epeters(a)epicor.com >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > We’re still trying to confirm things on our end, so it’s still
> > possible a wrong assumption’s been made somewhere, but it looks like
> > session resources are lingering with the http connection after the
> > session has expired.
> >
> >
> >
> > From one of the heap dumps, following session data that expired the
> > previous day back to a GC root:
> > http://imgur.com/Ov8xFy1
> >
> > That’s from a dump where the read-timeout was disabled.
> >
> >
> >
> > We can set the read-timeout, but I don’t know if the behavior of
> > keep-alive will limit the impact of the read timeout. After the
> > reply has been created and sent, do the particulars of the request
> > or reply need to be kept beyond the expiry of the session they were for?
> >
> >
> >
> > Is there a way to disable keep-alive? In this particular instance
> > it’s more important that the resources be freed up timely than it is
> > that the server use keep-alive to give a boost on performance..
> >
> >
> >
> > //EricP
> >
> >
> >
> >
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